i know my stuff. my uncle played for greaat britain

Cool, you still clearly know feck all, and you're still deluded.

its true. i am the nephew of charlie renilson

So? How does that mean you know what you are talking about. Some of the best players ever are useless pundits when it comes to giving their opinion on the game, so being an ex players nephew doesn't give you any elevated status.

You might have the sharpest RL brain there is, but it's nothing to do with who your uncle is.

Wind up or not, the sad truth is there are actually some people who agree with this bloke's line of argument. I wonder if they unplug their washing machines when they play up to signal their disapproval and leave them unplugged until they witness an improvement.

Hear hear

Also, the theory that results bring the crowds back seems shaky - can't really ask more than a home win against Leeds, and yet a sub-9k crowd the week after. Those feet don't seem all that adept at voting.

Well we had the most successful season in the club's history in 2003.

And in 2004 the crowds dropped by around 1k, when everyone - including all those on the "better results bring bigger crowds" bus - would have expected an increase.

Funnily enough, the club did too. The budget for 2004 was based on a 1k or more increase in attendances. So that was a loss of over 2000 bodies a week compared to budget. What was the effect on our bottom line? Go figure, but you'd be heading in the direction of £1/4 million.

But that can't be right, cos everyone knows that if you've been successful then your crowds increase?

Apart from in this apathetic city, seemingly.

Well they may be playing god awful but I'll still go and cheer if there's cause (and god i hope there is).

Staying away hurts the club financially and as a supporter it doesn't make sense to want to do that.

he worked as a scout for the sydney roosters for years asim, i think he knows a good player from a bad one

How come none of them ever signed for Souths?

I certainly will be voting with my feet ... by trying to get to more games than usual.

Call me a sucker for punishment but the club needs more support not less

I think casual supporters are quite good at discerning the general direction in which a team is heading. Many will have watched the Leeds match on Sky, appreciated it for the great effort that it was, but not seen it as the start of better things. That will have been confirmed by the result at Wakey.

In 2004 it became clear very early in the season that the balance of power had shifted to Leeds. Achievements in 2003 soon came to mean little to the casual fan.

By contrast in 1996 it was obvious that the club was the club was moving forwards. There was a feelgood factor which even the victory over Leeds last week couldnt create. Attendances will not recover until there is a general feeling of optimism about the club.