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Quote: mystic eddie "The problem is though that it is not just one half-back we need, it is two. Gaskell seems to always be crocked and is probably taking up quite a decent chunk of the salary cap to sit on the treatment table. I really do not see why too many people would be that bothered if he DID go. Whilst I concede that he is a fine player, when fit, he is very rarely fit and, to me, is a complete liability.

The guy is like a tampon. He is in for a week and out for a month.'"


Think the criticism of Gaskell always being injured is harsh. He played every game last year until he had his jaw smashed by a props elbow.

Then in against wakey he whacked himself around the post trying to prevent a try. There not injuries caused by being injury probe.

I think he's only missed 2 this year.

If he was missing a lot of games because of hamstrings, strains etc then I'd be worried.

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I thought Green was campaigning for "Remain"?

Anyway Addy was almost signed by KR 2 years ago, but stayed loyal to us. For his loyalty, he's spent 2 years playing out of position and being regularly bagged by so-called "fans". Plus promotion looks like a mirage. So who can blame him.

But also, at the time he signed his last 2 year deal in 2014, life will have looked a lot different as he was playing with a halfback combination of Gaskell and Gale. Maybe he's had enough of doing the right thing, and wants to be somewhere where he can resume developing his own game and preferred position. No sign of that around here.

Good luck to him, anyway. I presume he's here till the end of the season and he won't let anybody down.

As for Gaskell, I was going to shoot down ME's post but Bull Mania said it all already, so, what he said. Same sort of totally misguided and unfair criticism of Gaskell as Addy has regularly copped for. Whilst I doubt they take that much notice, it can't help.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Think the criticism of Gaskell always being injured is harsh. He played every game last year until he had his jaw smashed by a props elbow.

Then in against wakey he whacked himself around the post trying to prevent a try. There not injuries caused by being injury probe.

I think he's only missed 2 this year.

If he was missing a lot of games because of hamstrings, strains etc then I'd be worried.'"


He also missed a big chunk of the 2014 season with a medial cruciate injury, limped off at half time this week soon after an injury return, on top of the two injuries you refer to.

Doesn't play enough games IMO, regardless of what you and FA suggest.

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Quote: mystic eddie "He also missed a big chunk of the 2014 season with a medial cruciate injury, limped off at half time this week soon after an injury return, on top of the two injuries you refer to.

Doesn't play enough games IMO, regardless of what you and FA suggest.'"



Don't have stats to hand of how many times he's been substituted or when it was, but straight appearances stats:

2014 = 23 starts from 30 games
2015 = 20 starts + 1 sub appearance from 33 games
2016 (so far) = 12 starts from 14 games

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Think the issue with Gaskell this season at least hasn’t been the games he’s missed but the games he’s gone missing.

Last season he was immense for us when he was on the field. However I think that may have been down to the fact that the team was playing better and he had some better players around him such as Mullaney.

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I don't "suggest" anything, the numbers are a matter of record and given the 2 serious injuries that he suffered unavoidably (well, the second one could have been avoided if we had anybody else in our own half trying to prevent tries under our sticks) they show that there is nothing wrong with his numbers. Unless 85% is a poor record. Maybe ME is confusing it with strength of illicit brews.

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I had (and still do, to some extent) a similar impression to ME. I referred to him (Gaskell) as a biscuit recently.

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Quote: Nothus "Yet another Bradford academy product, playing for somebody else. Depressing.'"

He'll fit in well at Huddersfield then...

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark " Unless 85% is a poor record. .'"


If the figures quoted by Hamster Chops are correct, he has started 55 of 77 games since he has been at Bradford. Whilst this is better than I expected, it is certainly not 85%. Unless, of course, you are trying to fudge the figures to suit your own argument.

Of course, as stated, that only shows the amount he has started, as opposed to finished.

And I am sorry if it seems harsh but IMO (my opinion here!!!) he is not out there enough to be seen as indispensable and to justify his wages.

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Anyone considered fact Gaskells hamstring maybe wasn't right after last injury he had but was forced back to play too early due to lack of half backs? Not exactly his fault or points to him being injury prone does it?

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Quote: Bets'y Bulls "Anyone considered fact Gaskells hamstring maybe wasn't right after last injury he had but was forced back to play too early due to lack of half backs? Not exactly his fault or points to him being injury prone does it?'"


No. I did not consider this as a player playing when not fit or a club forcing their main man to play when not fit, in a relatively "meaningless" game, would but utter folly from both sides.

Also, as has been suggested on here, I believe we were much better in the second half when he was off the pitch? Perhaps we could have taken the chance if he was not 100%?

However, what I need to clarify is that I have no doubts about Gaskells' ability whatsoever. It is simply that, given our situation, I feel that he is a luxury that we cannot afford at the moment.

Consider the situation similar to that of Manchester City in football. Vincent Kompany is their talisman. They are far better with him in the side than out, but he is out so often that you wonder whether he is worth persisting with.

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Quote: mystic eddie "If the figures quoted by Hamster Chops are correct, he has started 55 of 77 games since he has been at Bradford. Whilst this is better than I expected, it is certainly not 85%. Unless, of course, you are trying to fudge the figures to suit your own argument. '"


You KNOW you can't do these sort of "arguments", mate, so do yourself as favour and lay down that spade!

The 85% figure is this current season, you know, real-time and all that ,and the one in which he hasn't been major crocked on a goalpost or had his face dismantled by a Neanderthal.

You resort to the pathetic "55 of 77" when you obviously know that the total includes the spell recovering from the broken jaw etc. yet you unashamedly use it.

Quote: mystic eddie "Of course, as stated, that only shows the amount he has started, as opposed to finished. '"

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