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Dont think EW refusing to train or play for us has done him the world of good either, if i had just handed in a transfer request i would still want to play and would give it my all to prove how valuable i am to a team, if he did that he may have had some suitors.

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Quote: broadybull87 "Dont think EW refusing to train or play for us has done him the world of good either, if i had just handed in a transfer request i would still want to play and would give it my all to prove how valuable i am to a team, if he did that he may have had some suitors.'"


AFAIK Whitehead hasn't refused to play or train. It was clubs decision to stand him down.

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Quote: broadybull87 "We can accept the fee but its then up to the buying club in this case Salford, to agree conditions with the player.

Same with football you can sell a player to any tom, dick or harry, but if the player does not want to go to one of those clubs your back to square one, well now we have player whos agent though thought there would be an abundance of clubs just waiting to snap him up however this does not seem to be the case.

So Andy Clark
Yes I get the whole player agreeing terms business but say Catalans didn't match Bradfords estimate forhim they could make him finish his contract playing for tethe reserves or a championship club, because hhe's under contract Bradford have the power'

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As I broke on here hours before it became public last night he isn't going anywhere! He's had a rethink, and Catalan won't meet the asking price - Talks with Franny tomorrow aimed at a face saver for all parties.

Elliot to apologise, Bulls will say they are committed to taking the club back to the top everyone has a cuddle and we forget the whole thing ever happened.

He's been slowly mending fences with team mates all week, played golf with 'leaders' today.

Watch this space.....

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Quote: RED LEAGUE "Yes I get the whole player agreeing terms business but say Catalans didn't match Bradfords estimate forhim they could make him finish his contract playing for tethe reserves or a championship club, because hhe's under contract Bradford have the power''"

we have the power to make him see out his contract in reserves, But that's no use to us as we end up paying his wage for remainder on his contract for nothing. We don't have the power to force him to move to a club who agree a transfer fee. Deal has to be agreeable to both whitehead and the club.

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Ah get you know, i though he did mat i stand corrected though in you superior wisdom icon_smile.gif.

Think that idea has been mooted before Red we could and should be able to send him to play for Dewsbury, but not sure if he refuses would he be in breach of his contract as i would really doubt it would stipulate he only plays SL rugby.

Could see that happening after he said no to salford Frank, no one else was willing to pay the fee he was stuck in limbo.

Anyone recon the Fat Dogs can think us up a song for EW?????

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Quote: Frank Whitcombe "As I broke on here hours before it became public last night he isn't going anywhere! He's had a rethink, and Catalan won't meet the asking price - Talks with Franny tomorrow aimed at a face saver for all parties.

Elliot to apologise, Bulls will say they are committed to taking the club back to the top everyone has a cuddle and we forget the whole thing ever happened.

He's been slowly mending fences with team mates all week, played golf with 'leaders' today.

Watch this space.....'"


That's strange because Elliots agent is busy discussing personal terms with Catalans according to sporting life.

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Quote: broadybull87 "

Think that idea has been mooted before Red we could and should be able to send him to play for Dewsbury, but not sure if he refuses would he be in breach of his contract as i would really doubt it would stipulate he only plays SL rugby.

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AFAIK moment player refuses to do something that's covered by his contract then he's in breach. At that point we don't have pay his wage anymore but do retain his registration preventing him from playing for anyone else until someone pays a transfer fee. Pretty certain theres been a couple of cases like this in past.

Sounds like Salfords offer has given Catalans a nudge though. being reported on sporting life that their discussing personal terms with whitehead. They know we wont release him without a fee/player swap so doubt theyd bother discussing personal terms unless they were serious about offering something.

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Couldnt remember if he had refused or not to play/train or play for Dews, if a player swap is on the cards who would we like?

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Quote: broadybull87 "That is try Mat, if a player swap is on the cards who would we like?'"

Dunno, not very familiar with Catalans players. They do seem to have plenty of big props/2nd rowers (which is why it seems a bit strange that their after whitehead).

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Reading sporting life it is due to Fakir leaving to go to either KR or wakey, but they have also signed Garcia who is a 2nd row from Brisbane.

Get us Menzies if he fancies another crack at it, dont think he is as loved in france as he was here.

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Quote: broadybull87 "

Anyone recon the Fat Dogs can think us up a song for EW?????'"


with very little thinking, you could easily turn the traditional "what's the score" chant into:

Elliot: Not top 4
Elliot, Elliot: Not top 4

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Franny is doing the right thing leaving him with the academy, we cant just have players signing deals and thinking they can get out of them scotch free just because they asked. Pay up or let him rot.

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Swap?

Escare would doicon_smile.gif))

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Quote: Bulls4Champs "Franny is doing the right thing leaving him with the academy, we cant just have players signing deals and thinking they can get out of them scotch free just because they asked. Pay up or let him rot.'"


I don't think he should be allowed to play with the academy. I think he should be on gardening leave indefinitely. The removal of the use of any club facility should be employed against him. He doesn't want to be at the club, fine, go off and train independently of the club.

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