thats disingenous to say the least. He'd already got a release from bradford provided someone, either a club or orford himself, pays the compensation we've asked for. WE arent going to allow him to walk away from a 2 year deal for nothing and afaik we've got RFL backing to sit on his registration until issue is resolved without having to either pay him or have his wage count on our salary cap. Balls entirely in Orford/NRL clubs court so dont know why they keep saying its bradford holding things up.

I don't think French players have ever counted on the cap, surely it would be illegal to discriminate against fellow EU nationals?

It's one of those stupid "not quota but not homegrown" rules, although I don't know why. To me, as soon as Catalans were put in Super League they should have counted as homegrown. They didn't though, they counted the same as the Kolpak lot I think.

They definitely are changing it this year so they are homegrown as it was mentioned when we announced Elima's signing.

you've got it pretty much spot on apart from the 'wording'. they wont count as homegrown as thats the phrasing used for clubs academy products. Phrase your looking for is federation trained. Up until this year french players counted as non-fed trained (basically old kolpak), from next year onwards for purposes of quota they will be classed a federation trained. Basically we're now including the french governing body under the aegis of SL for quota rules same as NRL include new zealand governing body under NRL rules.

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Interesting how the Aussies like to negotiate via the media isn't it?

does this mimis bloke live on a different planet to the rest of us? how has he got the gall to claim we're refusing to speak to him when he went on holiday and refused to discuss orfords contract with us (despite carrying on negotiations with NRL clubs). Think he's blowing smoke regarding us having to start paying 2nd year of awfuls contract.

What benefit does it have for us to wait till 30th of november and start paying orford for second year of his deal?

also would he not have to return for us to start paying him?

maybe we will pay off Hall before 30th and then we have enough room for him under quota strengthening our hand?

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Mimis is a joke. All of this is a joke and needs sorting asap

Its all crap anyway. The Bulls financial year ends 31/12 not 301/11 - its the SALARY CAP YEAR that ends 30/11. And financial year ends have no bearing on what he is paid for and second year on contracts or whatever.

Seems to me Mimis is playing hardball to try and get out of the target club - or Pratford - having to pay a release fee. They may think if they can drag it on past 30/11 then Bulls will either have to register Pratford as a salary cap player for 2012 or release him so they do not. the stance the RFL are taking will be crucial if that is the case. If they are supporting Bradford then we may be OK. If not, then we are into the realms of having Pratford costs on our 2012 salary cap, even if he has left us, if it ends up being US that has to pay anything. He and dungheap Mimis might argue that he asked for a release but Bulls made it impossible by imposing terms too onerous, therefore his desire to leave was frustrated and so he accepts he still has to play for us. And then we have to pay him off...

If that's the case, I hope him and Mimis rot in the very darkest depths of hell.

i cant see this ending badly. Too much time wasting will AWFUL and then not getting any halves signed up. Sykes at 6 god help us