As dangerous an ideal as fascism. As both parties have now abandoned the centre ground, for differing reasons - to get elected, the Tories just have to be slightly more left wing than UKIP and the BNP. Labour don't have that option as they can't say "vote for us as we're slightly more right wing than the Communist party".

I find it odd that you don't get the point about the Supreme leader, Kim Jong-May. As she acts more & more like a dictator, strong, stable, suppressing free speech, limiting privacy, crushing dissent, from both within & without her party, reducing workers rights - Kim Jong-un was the most current Dictator available to compare her to. Policy-wise, I agree with you she should be compared to Franco or Mussolini but General May or Maysollini don't quite work the same and isn't as recognisable. That's all there is to that really.

I know what you mean. I’m not confident in him or in a lot of his front bench colleagues (McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry) they come over poorly, can’t connect with people outside their immediate circle and keep making gaffes. Having said that a lot of the policies make sense, e.g. increasing the tax take to fund public services, re-nationalising the railways etc. Sadly though they’ll never be put into practice because the electorate don’t like him. There’s no arguing against that.

I do know that voting for May would be like pooping on my own doorstep. 5 years of unchallenged hardline Conservative government will ruin public services.

As Clement Attlee said "I believe that the foundation of democratic liberty is a willingness to believe that other people may perhaps be wiser than oneself." Probably beyond Teresa May's comprehension.

Quote: Bullseye "I know what you mean. I’m not confident in him or in a lot of his front bench colleagues (McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry) they come over poorly, can’t connect with people outside their immediate circle and keep making gaffes. Having said that a lot of the policies make sense, e.g. increasing the tax take to fund public services, re-nationalising the railways etc. Sadly though they’ll never be put into practice because the electorate don’t like him. There’s no arguing against that. I do know that voting for May would be like pooping on my own doorstep. 5 years of unchallenged hardline Conservative government will ruin public services.'" I don't think people solely vote on personality. It has an effect, but isn't a deciding factor IMO. Problem is, if you love Corbyn, you'll love his front bench, if you don't, you'll hate his front bench. Too many similar people appealing to one minority group. You mention the policies. No one thinks more money for NHS, schools, nationalising the railways, more police is a bad thing. The problem Labour have is their ideas of how to pay for all of it. They just seem to be the party/politics of envy. I.E Hate the rich. Taxing/hating the rich whatever you want to call it, won't bring any where near enough money to pay for all the above. Even corporation Tax, just because you increase it doesn't mean it will bring more money as it says in this article. The Tories cut it, yet it brought in more hard cash. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39869118 I think people forget just how crappy it was for people in the jobs market just before the Tories got in 2010. The jobs market was awful. Whatever you think about the Tories, while they've been in charge, employment has gone up. Whether that's down to them or not is opinion. But people just don't trust Labour to get their sums right, and with something as unpredictable as corporation tax, people don't want their jobs being risked if it doesn't bring in enough money to pay for their shopping list, or if companies decide to move elsewhere or let people go due to the tax increase.

Quote: Bullseye "I know what you mean. I’m not confident in him or in a lot of his front bench colleagues (McDonnell, Abbott, Thornberry) they come over poorly, can’t connect with people outside their immediate circle and keep making gaffes. Having said that a lot of the policies make sense, e.g. increasing the tax take to fund public services, re-nationalising the railways etc. Sadly though they’ll never be put into practice because the electorate don’t like him. There’s no arguing against that. I do know that voting for May would be like pooping on my own doorstep. 5 years of unchallenged hardline Conservative government will ruin public services.'" I don't think people solely vote on personality. It has an effect, but isn't a deciding factor IMO. Problem is, if you love Corbyn, you'll love his front bench, if you don't, you'll hate his front bench. Too many similar people appealing to one minority group. You mention the policies. No one thinks more money for NHS, schools, nationalising the railways, more police is a bad thing. The problem Labour have is their ideas of how to pay for all of it. They just seem to be the party/politics of envy. I.E Hate the rich. Taxing/hating the rich whatever you want to call it, won't bring any where near enough money to pay for all the above. Even corporation Tax, just because you increase it doesn't mean it will bring more money as it says in this article. The Tories cut it, yet it brought in more hard cash. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39869118 I think people forget just how crappy it was for people in the jobs market just before the Tories got in 2010. The jobs market was awful. Whatever you think about the Tories, while they've been in charge, employment has gone up. Whether that's down to them or not is opinion. But people just don't trust Labour to get their sums right, and with something as unpredictable as corporation tax, people don't want their jobs being risked if it doesn't bring in enough money to pay for their shopping list, or if companies decide to move elsewhere or let people go due to the tax increase.

The financial state of the world & resultant austerity was caused by capitalist recklessness & greed, not policies of social justice. As a member of another political party I do not have to defend Labour.

We will not know for several parliaments whether a deal is good or bad. It will be dressed up in jingoistic terms by xenophobic small island Tories & their sycophantic toadies in the press. Not until the memoirs start coming out will the truth be told.

I think we'll know whether it's good or not pretty quickly based on the performance of the economy. If we're plunged into recession they'll never live it down. If it's boom times it'll be I told you so.

The biggest snow job that the Tories pull is to make everyone believe that if they vote Tory then they ARE Tory and as such will benefit from them. In fact the only people that benefit will have several millions in the bank. The CPS provided the best argument for not voting Tory after today's ruling regarding funding irregularities. If your on the inside they will look after you, if not it costs a six figure donation to join the club.

Any recession will be the fault of those pesky forriners not brave Teresa.

I am a fan of what can be referred to as 'good capitalism', i.e. productive, value add activity that rewards genuine creativity and hard work. May and her party's politics reward rent seeking and abuse of market power, not those who drive genuine economic activity. Much as I hate them, I would at least understand why people voted conservative if their brand matched their rhetoric or their actual policies. But they are jingoistic, entitled, and appeal to the very worst of 'British values'.

I'm not overly enthused with the other options though, and I'm sick of hearing Corbynistas whinging about media bias and how awful the Tory spin machine is. It is HIS JOB to deal with that and if he cannot he is unfit for purpose. He is as complicit as any Tory in the destruction that will be lavished on the UK/Great Britain/England by another five years of Conservative government if he fails to deal appropriately with reality. Sod it - I'm still voting Labour, but my concern will be primarily on whether I get my bonus this year because the wider social context is just broken.

The Labour chance was in the last General Election when the Tories stock was far lower than it is today but they chose the wrong Milliband (if "choice" is the right term) as Red Ed the Tory pretty much fooled nobody.

It seems to me that to try an address this and appeal to the traditional Labour voters that they have turned the clock back four decades to a political dinosaur that perhaps appeals to older Labour voter but is completely out of touch with modern society.

The fact that he and his buddy McDonnell are IRA sympathisers does not help either.

As one who has quite an interest in the politics of North Korea, this is an utterly absurd and crass comment that you really should be ashamed of.

This is a country where people are being starved to death whilst a chosen few live in multi-million dollar mansions drinking the best (imported) foods and drinking the finest of drink.

A country where people (and their families) are thrown into the Gulags for saying one wrong word about the "Dear Leader." A country where people are executed for the slightest of insubordination. A country where people make soup out of Tree Bark as they cannot afford to eat.

This is a country with televisions pre-tuned to one Brainwashing tv channel, made by the state to train the people into believing the lies and nonsense they spout, spending billions on assembling the largest (by percentage of population) army in the world and developing nuclear weapons whilst the vast majority of its people are denied basic things like a transport infrastructure and electricity.

A country who will imprison or execute all the family and friends of anyone who successfully defects from it.

You may not like the Tories but the comparisons are utterly ridiculous. In fact, were it be the way that you portray it then the likelihood is that, by now, you would have been shoot by firing squad for speaking out against the regime in the above post.

Have a word with yourself.

I see the Labour manifesto has been leaked. Having had a read there's not a lot I have a problem with. A lot of it makes sense. Shame it leaked out and the media is concentrating on that.

Rather than obsessing about the leak they should use this as an opportunity to talk about the content.

Thanks for that Andrew.