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Well what the hell else was he doing? Filling in his tax returns?
Murphy was waiting to catch the ball, Langley strayed within 10m
Offside.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
Yes, he jumped up with Kear to catch the ball
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The question isn't whether he was offside, it is whether he broke any rule, and I've explained exactly why he didn't. Nobody has yet given a single reason why what I have said is wrong. All I ask is that the laws of the game be applied to the incident, and I argue they clearly weren't.'"
He was within ten metres of a competition for the ball having been offside at the kick. I argue they clearly were.  |
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
Had you gone for a pint when that happened, because both players hands were very close to the ball.
Or had you had a few too many.???
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|  so in your eyes Murphy who had jumped up for the ball with the Bradford player wasn't either :
A) a defender or B) trying to gather the kick ??
Please explain what role then Murphy played in this decision to 'not apply the rules' ? |
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "icon_lol.gif ![]()
I wouldn't bother. He is a lawyer. He is good at arguing, even if his point is hopelessly flawed and frankly baffling.
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| Quote: Code13 "Well what the hell else was he doing? Filling in his tax returns?
Murphy was waiting to catch the ball, Langley strayed within 10m
Offside.'"
Of course he wasn't waiting, no player was waiting, because the ball was kicked into a space. Whatever you make of it, nobody can seriously argue that any defender was "waiting". |
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "icon_lol.gif ![]()
He was indeed both. But you, like others, seem unable to understand the simple wording of the rule. Which doesn't mention "trying to gather".
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| Quote: vbfg "He was within ten metres of a competition for the ball having been offside at the kick. I argue they clearly were. ![]()
Ok please point me to where in the law it mentions a "competition for the ball" and I will agree. Clue: it doesn't.
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"Interfering with Catcher 2. Any off side player who remains within ten metres of an opponent who is set to catch a kick up field by an opposing player shall be deemed to be interfering with or attempting to interfere with the catcher and shall be penalised unless the non-offending team gains an immediate advantage."
Seems clear enough to me. Unless of course Murphy wasn't trying to catch the ball but was just jumping up to look over the top of the Bradford players to see whether the Bradford fans had all gone home since they'd been so quiet.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Ok please point me to where in the law it mentions a "competition for the ball" and I will agree. Clue
Look. He has already said, Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Nobody is disputing that Langley was offside'" and yet you are all still falling for his wind up. FA is clearly bored or having a quiet week and wants an argument. I'd leave it and he will go away. He is winding you all up, and you are falling for it.
I know he is talking nonsense - you know he is talking nonsense, we all know he is talking nonsense. Let him have his moment in the sun.
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| Quote: mystic eddie " I'd leave it and he will go away. '"
You think? |
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| Quote: tigertot "You think?'" Well probably not. But if they stop arguing with him then he will have nobody left to play with. |
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Ok please point me to where in the law it mentions a "competition for the ball" and I will agree. Clue
The term I used is a colloquialism of the type two normal people might use in a conversational setting such as this. You want me to pay heed only to those terms used in the official laws of the game, and then have us exchange increasingly tedious broadsides of sophistry until one of us, i.e me, walks away bored.
No.
I'm content to know that they've been calling similar incidents in this manner for a few years now. Cummings called it before the official did, we have benefited from similar rulings this season and other teams have had similar incidents ruled in the same way. From what I've seen of the NRL this year it seems pretty standard there too. This more than dispels any notion I might have that we were cheated, treated differently or had something bizarre and unjust fall out of the sky and land on our heads. For me, that's more than good enough.
The situation I originally described is more than adequately accounted for in the rules. If you haven't the wit to understand "shall not encroach within ten metres of an opponent who is waiting for the ball" then there's probably not a great deal increasingly complex arguments about the same simple concept will do for you.
But of course you do understand it, so why we're even having this conversation is the real point of confusion.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "It wouldn't be the Magic weekend unless a VR screwed the Bulls.
Great try by Kear wrongly disallowed.
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You are right it was obviously a try. Have you thought of writing to the RFL and explaining it to them and demanding a replay or the record books be amended. It would be more useful than trying to have the decision reversed on here |
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