I agree with that. If you're only getting one or two games free and there's a chance you might miss one or two games, what benefit do you really get, other than the made up ones like "priority to ask the bulls".

It doesn't help that the club are still saying "announced in due course" when asked what the gate prices will be. So people actually don't know what the saving of a season ticket is and the way the club don't want to announce them would make conspiracy theorists think that there probably isn't a high saving which is why they're being all shy about it.

Rimmer won't endorse an independent inquiry into the RFL as he is part of the RFL!!

The "bar-code scanning" at Odsal consisted of a few people with mobile phones at a gate, trying to catch a half second when the wind wasn't blowing, so the printed out sheets could be read without blowing about all over the place. Sort of 21st century, but perhaps not quite as we'd imagined it - that said, I'd expect the same to be the order of the day at Dewsbury.

Christ that image of Rimmer in the Mirror article just makes me want to sock him in the chops

As a long time Trinity season ticket holder, I gave up thinking about the benefits I would get from being a season ticket holder, remember the great words JFK uttered back in the 1960s “Think not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country “ change the words country to clubs, then this should apply to all RL fans.

"Do it for your club" is something that stopped washing with Bulls fans quite a few years ago, as it's all we've been asked to do for the last decade+ with constantly disappointing returns.

Think that's called sport... Maybe if we hadn't been to 5 grand finals in a row??

Yes, it's absolutely that. It's just because the team isn't doing as well as it used to. Not at all to do with being taken for idiots by (mis) management for year after year after year and being told to pay through the nose for it too.

That tosh about people leaving because the club got relegated and because favourite players don't play here anymore might work for the more casual fans, but I don't think it's relevant to many people on this forum who very much don't fall into that category.

I’m not sure it feels like MY club anymore, that’s probably the issue. It’s going to take a lot of time to fix the damage to this club, I hope any new owners are now beginning to understand this.

Nailed it here.

With the way I/we have been treated over the past 10 years; milked of cash, promised and let down, lied to and disregarded, it's going to take a lot more than pretty words and emotional blackmail to repair the trust.

TBH maybe a month or so I go I sort of wished we had gone completely so I wouldn't have to worry about it anymore.

At the moment the new peniless owners have sold off the genus of a great young team (again) to pay bills (instead of investing the money they should have to invest, as displayed in the RFLs 'fit and proper persons' test).

And although 2 players have been bought, the progress made is nowhere near enough to get me to invest my money and time in a season ticket again.

There needs to be a moratorium on the words 'Super' and 'League' at the Bulls for the next 5 years. Any member of staff suggesting it's where we are headed/where we should be/planning for etc should be dragged b0ll0ck/butt naked into the Centre of the Mirror Pool and summarily executed.

I think its fair to say there are two types of clubs in the RFL pyramid. Aspirant Superleague clubs and those that do not aspire to be in the top flight. Sawyer appears to have explained the conflict of interest in part owning Bradford and Dewsbury that we are in different categories, so in some sense not competitors. Anyway, I think it is legitimate to call us an aspirational SL club, but the timescale on that is clearly years away.

Could only agree to that if the word Administration was included

There's nothing wrong with being "aspirational" provided there is also a sense of realism.

I don't see us as much different from Dewsbury. We're no different from any championship club in that, given the chance we'd love to get to the top flight but that "chance" is really just a dream. For sure, as a 'big city club', you'd expect our name to be bandied about but, as we all know, we've been hanging on for that big investor to pop his or her head around the door for years and that person seems to have got lost. Like many I've stopped believing now - though I confess the investor dream lasted longer than Santa Claus.