Look. The Bulls are obviously lulling the rest of SL into a false sense of security. The fact that we haven't had a peak for about 5 years should be evidence of that

Silly boy.

As for Wigan, I guess the hysteria amongst some of your fans is explainable considering the trophy drought in pieland in recent years. 4 wins and you have the best coaches in SL and half a dozen WORLD CLASS players.

I can't wait to see how the season pans out for you guys.

You still sound like a Wakefield fan.

Look, seriously, the view that just because somebody plays for Wigan meaning they are the best in the business is twenty years out of date and your being so patronising didn't really make you look very good. Made you look rather like a twelve year old.

O'Loughlin is a decent player (my previous comments, slow, lack of creativity etc. would have been comparing him to a world class player) but if he was really any good, he would have some medals to show for it.

I am quite happy with Langley and Menzies, along with all the backrowers we have coming through, ahead of O'Loughlin.

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Only one way to settle this argument, Friday Fight Night!

Battle of the Curly Fros.
rlLangleyrl VS rlO Louglinrl

With special guest rlRefereerl

Its good when arrogant opposition supporters come on here to crow. It unites all us Bulls fans against a common enemy. Much more fun than fighting amongst our selves.

I'm going for a Bulls win now. Not by many. Probably really scrappy and against all the form books. But a win all the same. I just have a "Saints away" feeling...

No, he's not. Not unless you pull one of those "not naming him in the 19, but then someone else drops out and he plays anyway" kind of situations.

Since when have I ever said this? Since when has anyone ever said this?

I think I have now found your motivation in being so bitter.



How was I patronising?

I pointed out FACTS to highlight the crap you were spouting about Sean O'loughlin (which you have completely ignored btw).



Then why didn't you say that is what you were doing? You were making a general statement about O'loughlin as far as I am aware and then you compared him to Langely. Why are you back tracking?



So the sign of a good player is how many medals he has won? You know nothing about RL. Rickey Bibey has 2 challenge cup medals to his name. Trent Barrett has never won a medal in his life, but is world class.

What a ridiculous point to make.



And I would have O'loughlin over any loose forward in Super League so everyone is a winner then.

Well you're in luck! Wigan haven't peaked yet at all. Read MaGuire's comments after the Catalans match. All he talks about is improvement. Your first and last points don't balance up very well do they? And you say that players should be judged by stats and then later say that they shouldn't. Make your mind up.

And I haven't even seen a fact from you yet. I think somebody else posted the difference between facts and opinions earlier. You should read it.

Anyway, better players do tend to win more medals - even if there will be some discrepencies - for every Ricky Bibey, I can give you a Peacock or a Cunningham. If O'Loughlin was a top player, he would have gone to a club where he would have stood a chance of winning them. He hasn't done this because he knows he wouldn't have got into those teams.

So loyalty is not worth anything these days is what you're saying. Lockers would get into any club in SL

Honestly, I don't think I've ever come across a bigger bunch of tits before a game. I thought Huddersfield were bad but these jokers from Wigan are generally a set of daft monkeys.

You'd think they were the best team in the country for the past 10 years the way they are going on after getting off to a flyer.

Langley and O'Loughlin, both fantastic players IMO, Both would walk into any club in SL and both would make the England 17 if fit.