As a kid I often used the Richard Dunn centre yet it was miles from where I lived at the time (Pudsey). I suspect the users of that place weren't confined to those from south Bradford. I don't see the future users of OSV to be any different.

Having one development at Odsal is better than none at all IMO. If that means having to travel then tough cheese!

It can't be described as "tough cheese" ?!?

We pay rates, so should expect the same level of facilities.

It's not practical to expect people from this end of the valley to use facilities in Odsal, particularly as people are now enourage to use public transport. I can get the train to Leeds quicker!

Having lived on the posh side [size(it's relative)[/size of Bradford for the last 15 years I have never been to Richard Dunne. Apart from a pool I don't know what is there. I assumed there were similar facilities closer to where I lived. Without the poor people.

So what do you want?

Two brand new sports facilities, one on each side of the city? In fact, why not 4 - N, S, E and W?

Or none at all, coz its in the wrong place?

When exactly would you be happy?

Unbelievable!

The facilites are for everyone as far as I'm aware. You have as much right to use them as anyone else.

You can get 2 buses from Keighley to Odsal, about 40 mins on a good day.

What exactly is your complaint? The location? The fact that its not in Keighley? They have to build it somewhere FFS.

Unfortunately wherever it is built [isomeone[/i will be unhappy about it.

I have to travel from Wigan to use it, yet you don't hear me complaining!!

What is your point? People in the Aire Valley don't want to travel to Odsal to watch the Bulls or City? Because its too far? But they will stretch to VP, if they have to?
They have to build the stadium somewhere. Will City "fans" stop supporting them if they move to the "wrong" side of the city? Well some fans in that case.
They can all go and support Aire Valley United in that case.

Good question.

Seriously though it was in response to the earlier post saying that people from up the Aire Valley didn't consider themselves as having anything to do with Bradford.

Your other points could just as easily be attributed to the number of Bulls fans who couldn't be d to get off their backsides and travel to Valley Parade because it was no longer a 10 minute walk.

Clearly there are lazy people everywhere in Bradford!

Short of building a sports village in everyones back garden I don't see a solution that will please everyone.

Given the population and population density of Bradford in comparison Keighley there are potentially more people who will use a sports village in Odsal than in Keighley. The transport network gives easier access too. So it obviously makes more sense to build it there than up the Aire Valley.

The organisations in the partnership obviously can't afford to build two OSVs - we haven't got one built yet! I'm well aware of the parochialism of people in the Bradford district area whether they be from Keighley or south Bradford but it never fails to amaze me!

You could apply that to Bulls fans moaning about having to travel to VP

Well Asim has already. Folk are going to moan wherever you build an "OSV". That's my point about parochialism. But if you look objectively you can see why Odsal seems like a good site in comparison with "somewhere up the Aire valley".

Of course you could.
So....
What do you want? A sporting village in Keighley? Bingley?

No.

And I don't think I'm on record as asking for one.

I would expect that leisure facilities should be raised to a high standard throughout the district, whether it be Odsal or Keighley.

Just for the record:

I am not against new lesiure facilities being built to serve South Bradford, however, if we're being honest, this is a being used as a trojan horse by the Bulls for new facilities for them.

If we accept this, then I am keen to know where will the money be coming from, keeping in mind that they already have accepted a £4.something million payout to look after their own destiny?

How can that site on the edge of a district be preferable to one in the centre? Unless you're thinking of making provision for Calderdale now?

I'm not aware of any sites in the centre of the district that are suitable.

Perhaps Odsal is the only site where the council owns land that of sufficient size? It's easy to reach from the city centre by road. It's not on green belt and is in no danger of flooding.

A new stadium next to the motorway network is a potential money spinner for the council too in case it wishes to bid for events, so maybe there is something in it for the non Bulls supporting taxpayer after all? The stadium development will give the council a bigger asset than it currently holds. The KC stadium in Hull is the base for a lot of positive work in the community where various projects and businesses have offices. This could be repeated in Bradford.

If the OSV ends up attracting people from Calderdale or Leeds or anywhere else then surely that's a good thing? They'll be swelling the coffers of Bradford council! That's another benefit to you!