The Bulls are no where near up to the cap.... as per usual you talk garbage

David Moyes is out of work.

Bulls 96 Salford 10, [score? ] that was boring - though as I said at the time, I can stand one result like that but two is just too many...

James Lowes as head coach with Karl Harrison as Director of Rugby. Jimmy would get the slackers fired up and he absolutely loves Bradford Bulls.

One thing is definate and thats we need to be telling St. Hilaire to be on his way

greatful to franny for all he's done and that but realistically would like nobby or kear. not sure we could get an aussie over but would help surely

Unfortunately I'm not sure how we get out of this situation. The players vs Leeds and Wigan looked like they were beaten before we started. They went through the motions but played like they'd rather be anywhere else but on the field representing the Bulls. That's an attitude problem and it suggests they've given up.

I for one can't be bothered going if they're going to take that attitude. They can count on my support if they give 100% but not otherwise.

How do we get out of it? It's tough. We need some new players across the entire squad (about 2 props at least). They appear to be in short supply. As for FC, it's harsh but if there isn't a tangible improvement in performances over the next few weeks I'd let him go. With relegation it's all about this year and if the owners are serious about staying up then they need to freshen up the coaching staff. FC is under massive pressure and he's had more bad luck than any coach but I wonder if he's lost the dressing room given the abject performances lately.

Of course if the owners aren't serious about staying up and are merely managing a drop of a division we'll see from their actions. We'll see a further run of thrashings. FC will stay in charge for longer but we might make the odd loan signing to give the impression we're trying to stay up. Crowds will drop and players will leave.

lowes/harrison

they'll be no slackers with them two at the helm and they've both still to achieve as coaches.Nobby,to me,is past it compared to the other 2.

Not sure who I'd want but I'd want a someone with some experience. But would anyone take the job on? They'd want some cast iron guarantees on certain things i.e. amount of money to spend either in SL or in Championship.

Kear or Noble would be the only ones with the man management skills & experience needed. However, based on boots and all interview I get the impression we are now planning for the drop & I feel Cummins is staying.

I said when Cummins was hired that we need a leader of men, and I still do. Harrison is one.

We'd only get better coaches (and players) if the owner can guarantee certain things and I'm not sure he can.

In fact I think the players have seen the way this is going and that can be seen in the last 2 games. I'm hopeful of a semi recovery this weekend. Sort of a valiant loss but longer term it looks bad unless we seem some more troops on deck.

Got to admit I suspect what players are being told behind scenes is very different to sound bites ferres and green are giving the outside world. There's been a noticeable change in mood for the worse in the camp since Oldham game IMO.

If we were to go for a different coach, my vote would definitely be for Kear - that's John, not Elliot, btw...

Not certain about long term, but for galvanising a failing team he's the guy with the charisma and personality to pull it off. Players seem to buy into his belief of being able 'to do it', which he's proved on several occasions in the past. A bit of the 'Foxy' about him, for me.