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| Good to see some fight from your players, shame the board cant conjure up the same amount of spirit. I would imagine once the dust settles and they realise that if you beat London at weekend (you will, your players will make sure of that) you're only 2 points behind London and Wakefield (amoungst other clubs but you'd expect them to be nowhere near the relegation spots come the business end) they'll pick their toys back up and proceed with the takeover.
If it was a 16 point deduction I could understand it, but 6 points is more than do-able especially when you already have 2 and another 2 coming this weekend.
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| Quote: dubairl "
Plus side to all this your club is now debt free the RFL just need to allow you to perform like a normal super league club and not like a leper. Would be an attractive club to purchase in those circumstances, all the hard work is done.'"
Which is just the problem? The RFL are determined it seems to make it impossible for us to perform.
Why? Well, that is the question isn't it? I wonder if we will ever know....
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Indeed.
if you were him, (or any other interested person) would you be remotely interested? i can't imagine that anyone will be, not on these terms.
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Would the Club be put into special measures if Lamb was the buyer? The 3 amigos were Directors when OK Bulls went into Administration, the RFL rules rightly or wrongly make that an issue, there is no such issue with Lamb or any other buyers. Perhaps the RFL would prefer Lamb to the former board?
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| Quote: Highlander "So, the points sanction is "up to 6 points", dependent on the circumstances of the Insolvency event and the amount of money creditors are paid....
Now that the administrator is looking for a buyer again, how do the RFL know how much a buyer would pay the creditors?'"
THey made this one up without seeing the business plan etc. so I'm not sure they're bothered.
I think it's whatever they think the press want to see TBH.
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| Will Sunday's game even go ahead?
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| Really feel for you fans and players. I don't think however you can complain about the points deduction as other teams have had to loose points for going into administration. I think you could still get those points back through throughout the season.
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| Quote: dddooommm "Will Sunday's game even go ahead?'"
What will the RFL do if it doesn't? Fine us? Deduct some points? Oh, too late for that...
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| It's not just 6 points though is it? It's special measures 1/2 Sky money and an extra game against the team who came top last year - 2 more. We are shafted. Who's gonna buy us under these circumstances?
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| It's not just 6 points though is it? It's special measures 1/2 Sky money and an extra game against the team who came top last year - 2 more. We are shafted. Who's gonna buy us under these circumstances?
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| This is not a trolling attempt - I am genuinely shocked by the RFL's decision today.
I can only assume that the points Mark Moore has made with regards to the RFL's involvement are true (otherwise he may need a very good lawyer) These are things that the majority of RL fans would not have known were going on. I can understand the raw emotion that would lead him to post all these details but I think it may have been wiser to let those emotions settle first. There would seem to be no way back after a statement like that.
The precedent had been set and IMO a 4 point deduction was the correct sanction. 6 points in this season is massive and without knowing the full details of what "We will work with all creditors" meant it seems way too harsh to me.
I understand a lot of your fans won't want to hear from a Wakey fan right now but I genuinely wish you luck and hope that some kind of solution can be found. I have never wanted to see your club go to the wall, just to be treated like others have been and this seems much worse to me.
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| Quote: AirlieJo "Really feel for you fans and players. I don't think however you can complain about the points deduction as other teams have had to loose points for going into administration. I think you could still get those points back through throughout the season.'"
It's not just the points though is it?
It's the money and the "special conditions".
And the the fact they club were told one thing by the RFL and then given the opposite, that's the absolute p155er of it all.
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| Quote: dddooommm "Will Sunday's game even go ahead?'"
Ross Heppenstall @rosshtanda [i"Just spoke to @RHunterPaul, who remains in situ as chief executive. He confirmed the club is back in the hands of the administrator. Robbie also said he was confident that everything was in place for Sunday's game to go ahead, although couldn't give cast-iron guarantees. Hunter-Paul said
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| Quote: craigizzard "
8+8+8 could have come at a good time for Bradford. While it's by no means certain you'll go down, if you do then coming in the top 4 of the second tier next year with a restructured club finally running affordably from a clean slate should be very possible. '"
This is why I don't understand the new owners walking away. We have a new structure coming in that is supposed to allow for relegation with it not being the (off field, contractual and financial) disaster it used to be going from SL down to NL1.
Or is the new super-duper 24 team league not so super-duper after all?
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| Desperate news for Bulls fans but please do not lose hope.
I feel there will be other twists yet and actually I don't agree that the 6 point deduction makes relegation almost certain.
You still have a decent team, fighting spirit and you are more than 6 points better than some teams.
You just have to find a way to keep on going and keep paying the wages. Someone will come in and if they don't I believe the RFL will not want a 13 team comp so something will be worked out.
Good luck and best wishes.
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| Quote: His Bobness "...
Someone will come in ...'"
There hasn't been a queue before so why should that change now we're pointless, on half TV money and will be put into special measures should we come out of admin?
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