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1 sin-bin call that never was. 1 sin-bin call that should've been. Changed his mind on scrum feed and no use of screen re grounding.

And all in Wakey's favour.

Add that to the poor decision to use, then not use, the bin in our game and I'm feeling a little sore given the huge impact on the league table these decisions MAY have had.

I genuinely don't feel these guys are biased but I do think they are often extremely inconsistent and the price clubs pay is often far too great.

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The sin bin was bizare however when wood was finally brought to ground by tackler after the tackle was complete another defender jumps on his own player who is on wood which was a proffesional foul so he should have binned that person. Reversing the scrum feed was correct our player clearly only goes to tackle the player and doesn't play at the ball the widnes player just throws it at him. Ref are allowed to reverse decisions if they are advised to by another official.

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Quote: HLL1969 "1 sin-bin call that never was. 1 sin-bin call that should've been. Changed his mind on scrum feed and no use of screen re grounding.

And all in Wakey's favour.

Add that to the poor decision to use, then not use, the bin in our game and I'm feeling a little sore given the huge impact on the league table these decisions MAY have had.

I genuinely don't feel these guys are biased but I do think they are often extremely inconsistent and the price clubs pay is often far too great.'"


The crap passes, dropped balls, crap kicks, crap tackles, poor discipline, poor positioning are insignificant compared to one or two refereeing decisions that MAY have occurred.

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I can never understand the stance that because the protagonists make mistakes it is justifiable for the conductor of the piece to also make mistakes. The players will quite rightly be admonished and by the coaching staff for their mistermeaners and faces the ultimate sanction of being dropped, whereas the referee or so it would seems can just carry on week after week making similar mistakes without any recourse.

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Quote: Bull by the Horns "I can never understand the stance that because the protagonists make mistakes it is justifiable for the conductor of the piece to also make mistakes. The players will quite rightly be admonished and by the coaching staff for their mistermeaners and faces the ultimate sanction of being dropped, whereas the referee or so it would seems can just carry on week after week making similar mistakes without any recourse.'"


Rubbish. Every player makes mistakes every week, most never get dropped as a result.

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I think without want to be too presumptuous, we all but agree on this. I would not expect a referee to be dropped for making a few minor or even one or two major errors any more than I would a player that would be unrealistic not to say unfair. I would however expect this to be noted by the powers that be and no doubt it is and dealt with accordingly and as is the case with a player, kept in the dressing room.
If however a player keeps making similar mistakes or for that matter anyone in any business, they are “retrained” and whilst being retrained taken from the work face to concentrate on improving their performance i.e. dropped. This does not in my opinion appear to be the case with referees, which is again in my opinion very unusual.

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I have no evidence but would be amazed if there wasn't weekly review of referee pperformance & regular training/retraining. There just isn't a pool of full time & good enough refs large enough to drop them regularly. The same with most squads; unless you are the Warrington of this world there is not much quality waiting for their chance on the bench.

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I might be wrong, but Child strikes me as being from the SCummings school of refereeing. If he is not the centre of attention, then he will do something to make sure he is.

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