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Quote: Bulls4Champs "Hey, if it turns out to be true I'll retract my statement. Kind of getting mixed messages, it seems to me that Aaron is saying that he was coy and wanted to keep things confidential and here you are saying that he identified himself and confirmed discussions. I dont know because I wasnt there.'"


Oh, he identified himself. It's just that he kept several cards close to his chest.

He was asked who these investors were after he'd banged on about them in front of everyone for ten minutes, only to reply that it was 'confidential'. Which only serves to infuriate people further, in my opinion.

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So if we had 800k on the table only last week, and 500k from 'Greenwoods', whats the problem?

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Quote: HLL1969 "Just got back from mtg. Couldn't get in... '"


Me neither. Stood outside in the rain getting pìssed on.

But I managed it in the end, thanks to a very nice lady on reception icon_biggrin.gif

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Did you show her your credentials?

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Was this just another "Hood Forum" type meeting. A lot of talking, no-one leaves with any new info, just more frustration. Sounds like it to be honest, unfortunately.

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Quote: Bulls4Champs "So if we had 800k on the table only last week, and 500k from 'Greenwoods', whats the problem?'"


Guilfoyle said the ÂŁ800k was in the form of soft loans, NOT investment. Was that what people thought Mr Caisley was bringing?

Bear in mind though that we do not know how near or otherwise the Greenwoods deal was to being agreed before the Intervention, nor do we know if the due dilligence identified impediments or concerns, and nor do we know how likely investment would be now.

Something that has been really bugging me since the meeting: all the talk was of needing only a fairly modest amount to see out the season. A far cry from the ÂŁ1.2m that was being talked about before. Then when someone asked about the ÂŁ800k that was supposed to be already sitting there available, Guilfoyle said that was in the form of soft loans (I heard some folk express that it was "only loans"icon_wink.gif and that these "might be available still" to any supporter-owned investment vehicle.

???

We either needed that ÂŁ800k or we did not.

If it "may" be available, but all the talk was of engineering a supporter-owned vehicle to invest in the club but not on the scale of ÂŁ1.2m, then something does not stack up somewhere?

I hope someone who has been party to all this - there seemed to be quite a few at the front - can clarify, since I was quite confused as to just how much money WOULD be needed, and from whom?

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Quote: Bulls4Champs "www.itv.com/news/calendar/2012-07-02/bradford-bulls-could-have-an-extra-fortnight-before-the-club-goes-bust/'"


Quote....
[iGuilfoyle, who was accompanied by sports lawyer David Hinchcliffe, a Bulls fan, told supporters he had been "dealt a very poor set of cards".[/i

David Hinchcliffe - quick Google shows his background.

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Quote: Adeybull "Guilfoyle said the ÂŁ800k was in the form of soft loans, NOT investment. Was that what people thought Mr Caisley was bringing?

Bear in mind though that we do not know how near or otherwise the Greenwoods deal was to being agreed before the Intervention, nor do we know if the due dilligence identified impediments or concerns, and nor do we know how likely investment would be now.

Something that has been really bugging me since the meeting

Well I didnt know that, I can only go on what I hear and that was that potential investors would invest 800k if we could find 400k, so obviously he was talking bollox

What does he mean by soft loans? Loans from friends with no real commitment to pay back until we are able to?

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Quote: Adeybull "Something that has been really bugging me since the meeting


The same thing's been bugging me - but from earlier in the day. In one of today's T&A articles it says "But with a tax bill of about ÂŁ300,000 wiped out by going into administration, Mr Guilfoyle estimates it might cost any prospective new owner only about ÂŁ500,000 to see the club through to the end of the season."

???

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Quote: daveyz999 "Quote....
[iGuilfoyle, who was accompanied by sports lawyer David Hinchcliffe, a Bulls fan, told supporters he had been "dealt a very poor set of cards".[/i

David Hinchcliffe - quick Google shows his background.'"


Surprise surprise, you couldn't write this

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Quote: daveyz999 "Quote....
[iGuilfoyle, who was accompanied by sports lawyer David Hinchcliffe, a Bulls fan, told supporters he had been "dealt a very poor set of cards".[/i

David Hinchcliffe - quick Google shows his background.'"


It's OK! "Having him as part of your team hugely increases your chance of success!"

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Quote: feebleweasel "Quote....
[iGuilfoyle, who was accompanied by sports lawyer David Hinchcliffe, a Bulls fan, told supporters he had been "dealt a very poor set of cards".[/i

David Hinchcliffe - quick Google shows his background.'"


It's OK! "Having him as part of your team hugely increases your chance of success!"'"

Pretty sure he was involved in both administration periods at City. The first resulting cva lasted all of 2 years which isn't exactly a resounding recommendation of his abilities.

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Quote: Asim "Pretty sure he was involved in both administration periods at City. The first resulting cva lasted all of 2 years which isn't exactly a resounding recommendation of his abilities.'"


Correct.

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Quote: daveyz999 "Quote....
[iGuilfoyle, who was accompanied by sports lawyer David Hinchcliffe, a Bulls fan, told supporters he had been "dealt a very poor set of cards".[/i

David Hinchcliffe - quick Google shows his background.'"



David is a life long Northern / Bulls fan, but clearly has connections to the Caisley camp, but also huge experience in these sorts of messes.

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