Some fag packet accountancy - probably cost £2m to run the club this season, 3000 tickets across all options average £170 plus vat = £510k + RFL funding £750k, 15 games at £20k +vat walk up = £300k leaving £440k from sponsorship, merchandising profits etc to fill the gap, shortfalls will not be huge

Don't read the T&A comments section. You lose 6 IQ points every time you do

You need to remove the vat - do you pay that these days - and factor in concessions etc

There is no way we would have sold close to 5k season tickets without them mentioning it
I reckon we'll probably end up in the low 3k's.

It would make Steve Ferres look like a bit of a chump though, after he's just been quoted saying we're at 2700.
Still, stranger things have happened I suppose. Time will tell.

Flip side to factoring in concessions is you also have to factor in that a lot of season tickets will be for seats in stand which cost more than the £230 cost for adult standing.

Just wondering if the Coral Stand seating would count towards the total attendance available and if it does is it your missing 2000ish tickets.

That big fans forum before Xmas - was it £2.7m was quoted as being the running costs?

May be simplistic, but I took from that forum that it was roughly 1/3rds for each sector.

£900k from central funding/tv money
£900k from sponsorship, merchandising, corporate
£900k from ticket sales. So 4k tickets at between £220 -£280 covers that.

I think we'll hit all the targets by our first home game.

Well, the link I attached did include spaces in the Coral Stand which I did count.

You're actually missing a whole section of fans. Those many people who haven't renewed at the higher prices, that are more than likely to pay on the gate, on an 'as as when' basis. We shouldn't forget that the higher cost of season passes makes that option a far more viable option for lots of folk who maybe can't make it every week - let alone the fact that the upfront cost is not even going to be an option for the many who are unemployed, on minimum wage or on zero hours contracts. At the end of the day it's also going to be how many turn up and not just how many STs are sold.

That all being the case, I still think that the club are aiming for and have budgeted for at least a 4k average home crowd. We're not going to be getting the occasional spikes we'd get in SL for games such as Leeds etc so the more guaranteed sales the club generates, the better position they'll be in

Well, being the boring sod that I am, counting up the available spaces on that link today, we've sold another 10. Getting closer to that 5k mark

To be honest Roofy, I'll be pretty pigged off if we don't get above 4k as an average attendance.

My view is, yeah the STs are the 'bedrock' but the upfront cost is maybe too high. Of course, I know instalments options are available, but even that needs a confidence that the money is going to be to hand when required and I'd guess there are plenty who can't/don't want to make that commitment. Hence I'm guessing/hoping the pay on the gate crowd will be fairly strong.