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1271.jpg Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Well I personally feel that "The Wombling Song" defined the moment progressive rock transitioned from mainstream essential listening to underground scene that no "with it" teenager would ever admit to listening to, and was itself the harbinger of the ensuing dynamic punk rock movement. With its avant-garde costumes and hard-hitting lyrics blasting environmental waste blazing the trail for that next revolutionary genre, at a time when to all the world it seemed like UK rock would be marginalised by the bland and soporific "soul" from the US. Mike Batt never got the credit he deserved.'"
I was a little beyond my teenage years back in the middle seventies, though IIRC, the difficulty with 'The Wombling Song' was that you couldn't bloody well avoid it if you turned the radio on. Mind, there [ihave[/i been a few like that..and the most embarrassing moments came when you found yourself whistling them - street cred down the pan, gone in a flash!! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The thing is, you don't need to have ever heard a note of original blues to understand its relevance, if you are interested in any study of the history of music. For instance, BB King, inventing the concept of lead guitar. Or, once you know what a blues scale is, or a 12 bar blues, then all of a sudden your eyes are opened and you can suddenly recognise the influence in a zillion great rock (and other) tracks. Not that you need to, but there's the relevance and will be, as long as they play rock'n'roll.
Irrelevant, surely?
Amen to that. They will if I ever get a chance to get in their ear
I think FA, that there is far more which unites us than divides us.. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote: Bulliac "I was a little beyond my teenage years back in the middle seventies, though IIRC, the difficulty with 'The Wombling Song' was that you couldn't bloody well avoid it if you turned the radio on. Mind, there [ihave[/i been a few like that..and the most embarrassing moments came when you found yourself whistling them - street cred down the pan, gone in a flash!! ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Aye, session musicians have to earn a crust. Truth is the Blues/jazz scene isn't the most lucrative of livings ('cept maybe for those at the [ivery[/i top) so playing sessions and production work is one way of keeping the (not Howlin') wolf from the door. In fact it's a pretty marginal one sometimes and I'm disappointed I won't be able to show my support and catch Martin Taylor and Tommy Emmanuel's Halifax concert together, in March, as I'll be in France to see the mighty Bulls. C'est la vie...as they say.
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| Never mind, you can always go and see Patti Smith at Haworth parsonage in April.
Oh, no, you can't, because you haven't got a ticket ![Razz icon_razz.gif](images/smilies//icon_razz.gif)
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Never mind, you can always go and see Patti Smith at Haworth parsonage in April.
Oh, no, you can't, because you haven't got a ticket
Quick visit to Mr Google suggests Ms Smith might not be my type either, but of course, as with opera (which is also not my favourite music) it is my loss, not hers - so much music, so little time..
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| Quote: Bulliac "Quick visit to Mr Google suggests Ms Smith might not be my type either, but of course, as with opera (which is also not my favourite music) it is my loss, not hers - so much music, so little time..'"
So true. Imagine being born in say 3012, what chance will they have with an extra thousand years of music to try to somehow assimilate?
I like a challenge, especially musical, so let me see if I can give you some food for thought; Patti Smith was really a songwriter, writer, activist and "punk poetess", more than an out and out performer, but her well-worn voice did suit a certain kind of track and while I don't have many albums of hers she did some great work, including one of my top ever tracks, which you can watch her perform live on the OGWT by typing
Patti Smith - Because the Night - Live 1978
into a popular video search. (She and Springsteen co-wrote this)
Just one example of what she could do as a performer, which I think you'll be surprised by is a little-known acoustic cover
She crops up unexpectedly all over the place. I have a few albums by the very underrated Blue Oyster Cult, so to give you both them and her, have a listen to
Blue Oyster Cult-The Revenge Of Vera Gemini
from the superb album Agents Of Fortune, the track opens with Patti doing some of her poetry.
I think Secret Treaties is a better album than Agents Of Fortune but both are worth a listen and a place in your collection.
Blue Oyster Cult are perhaps only best know for a single, "Don't Fear The Reaper", but that was far from either typical, or their best. I like to try to persuade people to give them a listen (with not much success I admit but still!) so if you can be arrsed and have the time some time, I'd recommend checking out tracks like [iETI, Astronomy[/i and [iME262[/i, with your volume turned up to 11.
Would be interested to know what you think if you get a chance ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| I have "Because the night" on a 7" single somewhere in the eaves, as well as several BOC vinyl albums (and CDs), and fully concur with that assessment...if that's enough to put Tigs or Bulliac off...
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "She crops up unexpectedly all over the place. I have a few albums by the very underrated Blue Oyster Cult, so to give you both them and her, have a listen to
Blue Oyster Cult-The Revenge Of Vera Gemini
from the superb album Agents Of Fortune, the track opens with Patti doing some of her poetry.
I think Secret Treaties is a better album than Agents Of Fortune but both are worth a listen and a place in your collection.
Blue Oyster Cult are perhaps only best know for a single, "Don't Fear The Reaper", but that was far from either typical, or their best. I like to try to persuade people to give them a listen (with not much success I admit but still!) so if you can be arrsed and have the time some time, I'd recommend checking out tracks like [iETI, Astronomy[/i and [iME262[/i, with your volume turned up to 11.
Would be interested to know what you think if you get a chance
One of my favourite groups from my youth, seen them several times. I got into them when Ian Hunter wrote Going Through the Motions for their fab Spectres album. I think they were at their peak at that time & with Agents. My very favourite track though is Then Came the Last Days of May from their first album.
BTW, Patti Smith's version of Gloria is the only 12" single I have ever owned & is her best track that I have heard. The BOC connection is from her relationship with the late Allen Lanier IIRC, ex keyboardist, though I'm not sure if that developed from her song writing partnership.
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| Most, in fact nearly all, of my favourite bands feature a guitar virtuoso/exhibitionist (you can take your pick) and in particular I tend to admire those who are significantly better than me (which allows plenty of scope) from Django with the Hot club de France via Dire straits through White Stripes and John Williams and Sky to Chet Atkins, Frank Vignola, Les Paul, Tommy Emmanuel (who I may have mentioned before) The Rhythm Kings, Jools Holland's R&B Orchestra and really so so many more.
I love the blues. Country or urban, Lightin' Hopkins and Muddy Waters to the (slightly) more current people like Blues Boy himself (guess he's both old and new) Freddie King and Buddy Guy etc. I love big bands too, Buddy Rich, Count Basie (specially with Ella as vocalist) the magical Stan Kenton band, Ted Heath. Piano players like 'Fatha' Hines, Oscar Petersen, George Shearing, Bill Evans, Herbie Hancock, Jools Holland..............
Love classy vocals too, among others Diana Krall, Joss Stone, Nora Jones and the best of them all Bella Ella. Classical is also in my sights, especially big orchestral stuff I've seen all the usual suspects at one time or another though, for some unfathomable reason I've never seen my favourite piece (Mozart's Jupiter) done live, which I'd love to remedy.
To be honest all the above just scratches the surface of my musical 'likes', which are pretty eclectic to be fair and I promise I'll try to listen to Patti and the others you mention, though mentions of punk [iare[/i off-putting Lol.. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| At the moment there are some good documentary type progs about, last night I watched one on Sky Arts about the Hollies, and excellent and educational it was too. This is the sort of stuff I wish kids could be persuaded to watch, because you understand so much more then, and can gain an appreciation of the music and the people from a whole new perspective.
For example, Carrie-Ann was intended to be Marianne, after la Faithfull, but they bottled it; Jennifer Eccles was a totally dumbed down pop song done in 10 minutes with parts written by their wives etc., as a sort of reaction to being asked by the record company to concentrate on more basic, poppy, charts stuff - yet became one of their biggest hits; Stop Stop Stop was inspired by being invited somewhere in the US where the young ingenues were exposed to a fit belly dancer a foot or two from their table!
Or Graham Nash recalling how they paid a young session musician, Elton John, £12 to play keyboards on one of their biggest hits! Must-see TV, catch it this weekend if you can.
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| I saw that one as I was going through the channels but it was, well nearly half way through, so I didn't put it on. It is the sort of thing I like to see though so I'll definitely watch out for the next showing.
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| The world's greatest living guitarist, Richard Thompson, Leeds Irish Centre, 4th March.
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| Quote: tigertot "The world's greatest living guitarist, Richard Thompson, Leeds Irish Centre, 4th March.'"
World's greatest is a big pat on the back, TT.
Never sure how, or even if, you [ican[/i compare different players who have vastly differing styles. It's pretty hard to choose between classical, finger style players players like John Williams and Julian Bream with other pickers like Tommy Emmanuel, Richard Harding or Biréli Lagrène let alone plectrum style electric players, like leaving out maybe some more obvious names, Robben Ford, Larry Carlton or Pat metheny.
That said, there are a few of those who make me believe they are the 'best in the world' whilst they're on stage, I guess that's as near as it gets. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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