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Quote: JUDGE666 "That's headhunters view, you don't have to question everything.'"


Nor does anyone on here. Bit like you questioning someone else's view of someone else. Forums are clever like that.

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Quote: Roofaldo "we should have the players to actually have two XIII's'"


With plenty of players to spare, only in the halves do we struggle and I've had to put Kearney and Godwin there out of position in these example teams (and fingers crossed we've got more of them to come).

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HB Godwin?
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Quote: headhunter "This criticism of Worrincy is uncalled for. I'm backing him to have a good season. He's a good natural athlete and has potential if coached right, I think Potter might be able to get the best out of him.'"


Actually he's not. He's overweight and lacks mobility. Elliot Whitehead, Wayne Godwin, Brett Kearney and Michael PLatt, these are your natural athletes.

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Quote: Gurus_Beard "Nor does anyone on here. Bit like you questioning someone else's view of someone else. Forums are clever like that.'"


They are indeed, it must be the way you question.

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Quote: Bulls4Champs2010 "Actually he's not. He's overweight and lacks mobility. Elliot Whitehead, Wayne Godwin, Brett Kearney and Michael PLatt, these are your natural athletes.'"



I wouldn't say he's overweight but he certainly lacks mobility. Stiff as a board springs to mind.

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Quote: JUDGE666 "I wouldn't say he's overweight but he certainly lacks mobility. Stiff as a board springs to mind.'"


I'd say flexibility rather than mobility, cos he can shift when he wants to

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Quote: Bulls4Champs2010 "Actually he's not. He's overweight and lacks mobility. Elliot Whitehead, Wayne Godwin, Brett Kearney and Michael PLatt, these are your natural athletes.'"


I wish I was as overweight as Worrincey.

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So here we are again, a player being over critisised due to his so called lack of ability! Then wothout a second thought a poster, trying to justify his witch hunt uses a player who was also demonised (probably by the same people) to bolster thier arguement for a termination of his contract, mad! If the majority on here had thier way Micheal Platt would have been publicly hung drawn and quatered in the middle of the pitch!

Short memories some folk! icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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The purpose of starting this thread was to invite intelligent comment as to how Mick Potter will game plan for 2011 given that almost all of the team has been signed/retained by him.
What might we deduce from his signings as to the style of rugby he will play.

Its a bit disconcerting to see the thread sidetracked into denigrating individual players

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Quote: Gurus_Beard "Precisely how often have you seen him play? What has he done to validate your view?

Alternatively, your criticism of the criticism of Worrincy is uncalled for.'"
As far as I can see, he runs good lines in attack and has great pace and athleticism which could be very effective outside a good half back. On the other hand, he has missed a couple of poor one-on-one tackles which have led to tries, and any errors he makes are more likely to be exposed because he stands out on the pitch. If you compare his stats to Ben Westwood, you will see that Westwood played one game more than Worrincy and missed 7 more tackles, made 11 more errors and gave away one more penalty. Westwood did make more tackles and almost twice as many metres, but this can be attributed to having more playing time, and if a player is so demonised for having a poorer work rate than Ben Westwood then to be honest your whole squad should be in trouble. I don't know if the accusation of Worrincy being overweight is true or just part of his character assasination, but it never used to be the case that he was overweight, certainly not at Harlequins or in his first season at the Bulls, and if he was out of shape then you can hardly blame the player himself, he was training full time and will have been following the fitness regimes given to him by McNamara's staff.

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Quote: headhunter "As far as I can see, he runs good lines in attack and has great pace and athleticism which could be very effective outside a good half back. On the other hand, he has missed a couple of poor one-on-one tackles which have led to tries, and any errors he makes are more likely to be exposed because he stands out on the pitch. If you compare his stats to Ben Westwood, you will see that Westwood played one game more than Worrincy and missed 7 more tackles, made 11 more errors and gave away one more penalty. Westwood did make more tackles and almost twice as many metres, but this can be attributed to having more playing time, and if a player is so demonised for having a poorer work rate than Ben Westwood then to be honest your whole squad should be in trouble. I don't know if the accusation of Worrincy being overweight is true or just part of his character assasination, but it never used to be the case that he was overweight, certainly not at Harlequins or in his first season at the Bulls, and if he was out of shape then you can hardly blame the player himself, he was training full time and will have been following the fitness regimes given to him by McNamara's staff.'"


More holes in that view than Nigellas gusset.

Comparing Ben Westwood and his "stats" to Worrincy?? Sweet sunny Jesus, world's on it's arris.

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The point Headhunter makes about Worrincey 'outside a good halfback' is fair. When playing with Ben Jeffries (barely above average but still our best 6 by a distance in years) he ran good lines, broke tackles and scored important tries (at home against Leeds and away against Sts in 2009).

Last year due to the woeful squad composition he was spelled at prop in a team that played almost all year without a recognised stand off and most of it without a 7 either. This does not mitigate against some of the worst 'missed tackles' seen at Odsal in a long time. Having said that ever since SM took over our defence was in decline and in no way can Worrincey be blamed for all those games where we conceded 3 or 4 tries in the opening 1/4 only to start to play better out of feared humiliation.

In short I feel we have been a very poorly coached and assembled squad and if MP thinks he can make use of Worrincey then I'm right behind him.

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<Phil Clarke mode on>

Do you know Eddeh, Mick Potter has assembled his squad like a potter shaping his wares on the potter's wheel. To be successful, he will have to mix the quality imported clays from Australia with the more inconsistent locally-sourced clays. He will have to break some mis-fired pots (Worrincy etc) from the previous regime and hope that they don't weaken the temper of his new side when he throws them into the mix. He has to mix the clays carefully over the off-season, allowing the new elements to settle into a strong structure. At somepoint he will have to fire up the team in the furnace of the SL competition. He must get the atmosphere right - his training must cover up all weaknesses in the mix; the hastily and uneven fired pot will break. By July we will know if his wares are beginning to crack or if the mixture has shown enough durability to match the high quality products of the likes of Wigan and Saints. When competing with these clubs he must encourage the team to be like a Bull in a china shop, and not spend too much time admiring their craftmanship on the rugby field. If not, it may be left to Hood to pick up the pieces at the end of the season...

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "<Phil Clarke mode on>

Do you know Eddeh, Mick Potter has assembled his squad like a potter shaping his wares on the potter's wheel. To be successful, he will have to mix the quality imported clays from Australia with the more inconsistent locally-sourced clays. He will have to break some mis-fired pots (Worrincy etc) from the previous regime and hope that they don't weaken the temper of his new side when he throws them into the mix. He has to mix the clays carefully over the off-season, allowing the new elements to settle into a strong structure. At somepoint he will have to fire up the team in the furnace of the SL competition. He must get the atmosphere right - his training must cover up all weaknesses in the mix; the hastily and uneven fired pot will break. By July we will know if his wares are beginning to crack or if the mixture has shown enough durability to match the high quality products of the likes of Wigan and Saints. When competing with these clubs he must encourage the team to be like a Bull in a china shop, and not spend too much time admiring their craftmanship on the rugby field. If not, it may be left to Hood to pick up the pieces at the end of the season...'"

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "<Phil Clarke mode on>

Do you know Eddeh, Mick Potter has assembled his squad like a potter shaping his wares on the potter's wheel. To be successful, he will have to mix the quality imported clays from Australia with the more inconsistent locally-sourced clays. He will have to break some mis-fired pots (Worrincy etc) from the previous regime and hope that they don't weaken the temper of his new side when he throws them into the mix. He has to mix the clays carefully over the off-season, allowing the new elements to settle into a strong structure. At somepoint he will have to fire up the team in the furnace of the SL competition. He must get the atmosphere right - his training must cover up all weaknesses in the mix; the hastily and uneven fired pot will break. By July we will know if his wares are beginning to crack or if the mixture has shown enough durability to match the high quality products of the likes of Wigan and Saints. When competing with these clubs he must encourage the team to be like a Bull in a china shop, and not spend too much time admiring their craftmanship on the rugby field. If not, it may be left to Hood to pick up the pieces at the end of the season...'"


Almost spot on, you just missed repeated use of the word intensiteh.

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