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| even if we could get out of repaying remaining portion of odsal settlement (currently 1-2 million Iirc), How is leaving odsal going to mean we can suddenly raise £25 million? Only benefit to leaving odsal in terms of money raising is potential of partnering with a supermarket ala sts,wire etc. Current figure being floated around to put a roof on pop side and bring it upto standard is £8 million. surely if we could raise significant capital it would make more sense to go down that route. whether we can raise capital is another matter entirely.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"I agree with all of that. It is very easy to slag off Bradford council, it's probably well deserved, but I wouldn't fancy trying to resurrect this city especially at this time....'"
Except that I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't much to choose between Leeds and Bradford as places, but the Leeds Council had a forward looking plan, whereas the Bradford Council has, over decades, consistently failed, consistently fooked up, and consistently run the place down until we are where we are today, where comparing the centre of Leeds with the centre of Bradford is a bit like comparing a modern cruise ship with the wreck of the Titanic, which on a night attracts a similar number of visitors. If all those decades ago the Council had had the balls and the vision to make a new Odsal Superdome or whatever happen, we'd have reaped the benefits. Instead the succession of Odsal farragos is a microcosm of the procession of appalling decisions and lack of ambition that has got Bradford to where it festers today.
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| I too simply cannot believe that your revolting council would hold us to ransom if we were able to get out there and self finance a new stadium somewhere else. However I have to admit to being entirely ignorant about the way that new RL stadiums at Saints, warrington and Leigh etc have been funded. Who of them did it alone without council help?
As for siting we've said before that we barely have to move to pop into Kirklees (half way down the M606) or Calderdale (Buttershaw ish). Perhaps to save apoplexy from Fax it'd be best to go the other way and be the Kirklees Bulls.
Or....4.5 miles down the Road in Pudsey we could be the Leeds Bulls 
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| Quote Pumpetypump="Pumpetypump"I too simply cannot believe that your revolting council would hold us to ransom if we were able to get out there and self finance a new stadium somewhere else. However I have to admit to being entirely ignorant about the way that new RL stadiums at Saints, warrington and Leigh etc have been funded. Who of them did it alone without council help?
As for siting we've said before that we barely have to move to pop into Kirklees (half way down the M606) or Calderdale (Buttershaw ish). Perhaps to save apoplexy from Fax it'd be best to go the other way and be the Kirklees Bulls.
Or....4.5 miles down the Road in Pudsey we could be the Leeds Bulls
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Both Saints and Warrington had a big cash handout from Tesco, I believe (a simplified version of the actual agreements I'm sure). While Leigh's Sporting Village was built with the help of their council who could see the benefit to the town and surrounding area of such a scheme
As for moving to Pudsey? Why go that far. Aren't Park Ave trying to get a ground built at Thornbury? Surely getting in on a joint venture with them is still an option?
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Except that I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't much to choose between Leeds and Bradford as places, but the Leeds Council had a forward looking plan, whereas the Bradford Council has, over decades, consistently failed, consistently fooked up, and consistently run the place down .'"
Whilst thats fair comment the numerous helping hands leeds have received financially from central goverment which were usually at bradfords expense certainly helped to accelerate the relative rise and decline in the cities respective fortunes.
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| Quote Roofaldo="Roofaldo"Both Saints and Warrington had a big cash handout from Tesco, I believe (a simplified version of the actual agreements I'm sure). While Leigh's Sporting Village was built with the help of their council who could see the benefit to the town and surrounding area of such a scheme
As for moving to Pudsey? Why go that far. Aren't Park Ave trying to get a ground built at Thornbury? Surely getting in on a joint venture with them is still an option?'"
Wasnt that scheme just a load of hot air from their chairman (since departed I think?) which died a death pretty quickly. Havent heard it mentioned for several years now.
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| Quote mat="mat"Wasnt that scheme just a load of hot air from their chairman (since departed I think?) which died a death pretty quickly. Havent heard it mentioned for several years now.'"
Well even so, it wouldn't be a bad place for a stadium. And we could have it done so the away stand is called the Dick Lane.... 
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Except that I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't much to choose between Leeds and Bradford as places, but the Leeds Council had a forward looking plan, whereas the Bradford Council has, over decades, consistently failed, consistently fooked up, and consistently run the place down until we are where we are today, where comparing the centre of Leeds with the centre of Bradford is a bit like comparing a modern cruise ship with the wreck of the Titanic, which on a night attracts a similar number of visitors. If all those decades ago the Council had had the balls and the vision to make a new Odsal Superdome or whatever happen, we'd have reaped the benefits. Instead the succession of Odsal farragos is a microcosm of the procession of appalling decisions and lack of ambition that has got Bradford to where it festers today.'"
True as far as it goes, but not quite the whole story? Don't forget what did much of the damage was making Leeds a development area, qualifying for regional development grants and the like, in the 1980s. Bradford did not qualify.
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| The funding of the new St Helen's ground is far from cetaintiny.
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| Quote bobsmyuncle="bobsmyuncle"The funding of the new St Helen's ground is far from cetaintiny.'"
Really? Cos they've gone ahead and built the thing. Tut, looks like someone's gonna end up red faced.
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| Quote mat="mat"Wasnt that scheme just a load of hot air from their chairman (since departed I think?) which died a death pretty quickly. Havent heard it mentioned for several years now.'"
It wasn't a lot of hot air, and the chairman has not departed. We are in a recession. Any plans that the chairman had have been shelved due to the economic climate. Who knows what the future may hold but i would love to see Park Avenue and the Bulls link up at some stage. Park Avenue cannot progress much further up the non league pyramid at the Horsfall Stadium. They would be forced to move.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"True as far as it goes, but not quite the whole story? Don't forget what did much of the damage was making Leeds a development area, qualifying for regional development grants and the like, in the 1980s. Bradford did not qualify.'"
Nowhere near the whole story, I wrote one paragraph, this has been going on for several decades.
On that one point, development areas weren't picked out of a hat. The fact is that, however they did it, the council at Leeds got themselves on that gravy train, and our lot at Bradford didn't. If that was the one thing they failed in then maybe, but sadly you could pick just about any from hundreds and they've consistently made a complete porridge of the lot - usually at vast expense to taxpayers. Mind you, consultancies have done very well out of it.
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