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| Quote Bulls4Champs="Bulls4Champs"What £1 million do you speak of?'"
Finger in the air figure mate. But looking at expenses and debts I don't think it's far wrong.
When the RFL threw open the bidding during our last spell in administration, one of the 'hard and fast' stipulations ([urlhttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jan/05/new-bradford-bulls-owners-have-to-make-three-year-fixture-pledge[/url) that the RFL stated was that there should be evidence of funds available to ensure that the club was in safe hands. This was waived for Mr. Chalmers bid, however. For some reason.....
And look what a debt-accruing, player-losing, pension-payment-dodging, st0rm THAT resulted in!
I hope that the RFL have verified that our new masters have enough capital to ensure that we're not doomed to another catastrophy sometime soon, by abiding by their stipulations from last time and asking for a bond to be placed with them to guarantee a stable financial foundation for the club.
I'm not holding my breath though.
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| League Express advises the debt currently owing to creditors is 350k. Chalmers has written off any funds owing to him.
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| Quote bulls2487="bulls2487"League Express advises the debt currently owing to creditors is 350k. Chalmers has written off any funds owing to him.'"
But surely they need to pony up and show that they have funds to clear the debts AND run the club?
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| An open message to Eric Perez from a respected and informative quasi social media outlet.
1) We admire your love of Rugby League and thank you for bringing Toronto into our great game and making a success of it. We wish you all the best with your upcoming Ottawa venture.
2) Notwithstanding the above, we do, however, with respect have a problem with you collaborating (or allegedly being duped into collaborating) with the parties who have brought the Bulls to their knees three times in the past seven years, and who have now in effect let it become a substantially insolvent business. Two such parties include the current and former Chief Executives of the RFL. They we allege are rightfully accused of the following:
i) Repeatedly turning away investors with millions of pounds to invest in the Bradford Bulls underpinned by robust offers to ultimately pay off creditors; David Thorne being a prime example of one such undoubtedly credible investor who was given the Wood/ Rimmer cold shoulder in early January 2017. Why? Because the ownership of our great club had already been gift wrapped for virtually zilch to Andrew Chalmers' several months prior, and in fact well before Marc Green's Bulls even first entered administration. Scandalous.
ii) Unduly penalising the owners they brought in by withholding a large part of the Sky/central funding money or deducting 6 or 12 points before the season started - yes, some of these actions could to a certain degree arguably be justified, but come on guys you know, and we know, you were for the main part seeking to purposefully 'keep our club down'.
Eric - you may wish to consider why would the RFL do this? We now know the answer - and so we aver do your new colleagues in the oddball BBBBB/BB17 consortium - the Odsal land grab.
We could say more, a lot more, but we will wait for say the likes of a judge to rigorously scrutinise matters in due course. The RL tier 2-3 clubs have been way too slow to complain about all this and their calls for a 'truly independent' inquiry, though well meaning, will likely prove to be far too little, far too late. We recommend a far more direct, and timely intervention.
As for the fine mess you've found yourself in Eric we conclude by offering two comments and two open questions:
a) £350K will not be the level of debt as of the end of November 2019; we are confident that it will be at least £500K plus;
b) How much were Nigel Wood and Mark Sawyer owed by Chalmers and/or BB17 as of the day before the recent fans forums?;
c) Do you really want to be involved in an enterprise that won't even immediately pay back the Bulls' ex and current players, and hard working staff, the pension monies that they were in effect allegedly defrauded of?, and finally
d) As a respected RL journalist legitimately commented this evening ..... "[iVery difficult as a supporter to part with your own money for a season ticket when there’s so many smokescreens"[/i.
It is high time for new blood to be brought in; not old, (allegedly) bad, blood.
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| If Mr Perez should actually register to this forum and in such an event..do you expect a response? I assume you have contacted him direct and that the above is merely for our perusal.
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| Quote PHILISAN="PHILISAN"If Mr Perez should actually register to this forum and in such an event..do you expect a response? I assume you have contacted him direct and that the above is merely for our perusal.'"
As per usual, and apologies for having to once again be evasive ... watch this space Phil 
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| Out of interest why is anyone taking the comments of nestegg seriously?
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Out of interest why is anyone taking the comments of nestegg seriously?'"
Not a single person. Not one. Not even the people in nestegg's imagination who it claims are Private Messaging him/her/them/it with messages of support. They're all made up too.
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| Quote nestegg="nestegg"As per usual, and apologies for having to once again be evasive ... watch this space Phil
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It's the obsession with an Odsal land grab. it's not going to happen!
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| Quote The Ghost of '99="The Ghost of '99"Out of interest why is anyone taking the comments of nestegg seriously?'"
Only gullible people are.
Weren't we supposedly nearly £1m in debt and it would all come out before Xmas. Now it is £500k+.
Trolls who spend many hours typing and giving masses of details are still trolls.
If this person turned out to be genuine and took over the club who who honestly want to be part of his little world. I wouldn't, so if they are genuine then they are playing a stupid game on social media when sensible professional people would stay quiet and get on with things in the background. That tells me he is just a troll - yes a clever one but nevertheless - a troll.
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| The Ghost of '99 says ..... "Out of interest why is anyone taking the comments of nestegg seriously?"
If you don't like what they are saying Because it's clear Ghostie that they are on to summat. You dont need to be a rocket scientist to see that. Charlie and his gang took some stick at first, but as time has gone on that's dropped off big time.
If you, Dilligaf, Wooly07 and Blotto dont like what they're saying then offer some detailed counter argument, not just immature troll-like jibes. Or do what mods suggest and ignore 'em. BTW looking at ur posting history can i suggest that you don't get perturbed by bulls matters and go back to either helping the Rhinos survive next season, or for't next few weeks and months go back to worrying urself about the General Election and Brexit. 2 topics that are defo dull compared to endless Bulls soap opera.
For what it's worth me and my pals think that the eggy's may have got it cracked and could even be good for our club.
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| For all we know Front Row Grizzly might be Nestegg in disguise.
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