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11062.gif A casual stroll throught the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.:11062.gif |
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| Quote: Mirfieldbull "What if Richardson's plan was one of the 2 accepted by the RFL? Not beyond the wit of man that he would have been renegotiating with the administrator.
I hope that's the case as it seems the best scenario for a quick response that doesn't put the RFL's nose out!'"
Ah yes. I'm fully expecting Richardson's to have been one of the originally accepted bids. The devil is clearly in the detail.
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| Quote: el red "
So you are happy for this NEWCO to dump on creditors? The same creditors who have helped the club out in the past. Also you are happy for one of Green's cronies to basically front the club that Green has put in administration twice already. Guess what happens when in two years they haven't got the lease to Odsal from the RFL... ADMINISTRATION again.
Don't forget that this has been engineered to also shave all the clubs top earners and lower the wage bill at the expense of having a competitive team. So the 'backs to the wall' you talk about is false. Rohan knew all this and has merely rolled over to maintain his ridiculous salary for a Championship coach.
I want the Bradford club to rise again, but not like this.'"
I can understand your frustration and anger but will creditors be better off if the company is liquidated?
Are you saying Richardson (a very wealthy man, unlike Green) is one of Green's cronies? How is he? What are you alleging?
A lot of this fiasco is down to the fact that the administrator is trying to rush this through and the RFL are trying to rush something else through. This is all so needless really and more likely to cause admin 4. I always said we'd be better waiting until 2018 and starting in League 1. That's not on the agenda though so we are where we are. It's a situation of the RFL and the administrator's making.
I think the current squad of 20ish is possibly capable of staying up with a few loan additions. If any more go then it's a certainty they won't. So you're saying it's lame duck or nothing then?
That's going to be admin 4 too.
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| What a sorry state of affairs.
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| I can't see the RFL being held to ransom, if what's being alleged is true.
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| I find it hard to believe that players would just turn up to a meeting and sign new contracts without having their agent there and taking advice first ?
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| Quote: Derwent "I find it hard to believe that players would just turn up to a meeting and sign new contracts without having their agent there and taking advice first ?'"
They won't have signed new contacts, they may of signed an agreement to stay with the Bulls if this is done by the end of next week.
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| I'm not buying all this "trying to deceive the RFL and back them into a corner" stuff.
I would rather believe that what has happened is that Richardson & co have simply put themselves into a position that represents the best option for the RFL and that they would be stupid to turn down. It's like going to a job interview and telling your prospective employer (who is desperate for a new member of staff ASAP) "I can start tomorrow, I don't need to serve 4 weeks notice elsewhere before I'm available"
After all, the RL are the governing body, they hold all the cards. it would be naive of anybody to think they could force their hand
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| Quote: el red "Just for clarity, the RFL had NO IDEA this meeting was taking place. They found out about it at the 11th hour and therefore were being deceived.
So you are happy for this NEWCO to dump on creditors?
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If M Green and season ticket holders are taken care of (about 1.1 million if you believe his 900k figure, plus the value of the roughly 1k of STs sold up to mid November) then the remaining 50k, a figure cited by the RFL, represents half of one percent.
*And* it's very achievable, *and* there is as yet no indication that the half of one percent of creditor value will be dumped on.
Quote: el red "I want the Bradford club to rise again, but not like this.'"
Perhaps adjusting your exaggerated sense of entitlement will help.
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| Quote: RickyF1 "I thought an emergency meeting might of been abit sooner!!!!
Nothing gets in the way of Nige's Friday carvery.
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| I'm not sure they did. More of a "I'll sign you up on your old deals if you stick around." But who knows for sure?
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| Quote: ridlerbull "Not buying that. I'm not sure what the RFL would gain from our relegation.'"
Neither do I, other than gain credits from the rest in RL by 'punishing' us, but it is they who are pushing for us to accept -12, with no team, no staff [at the time of writing]play HKR 3 times etc.
Don't know whether this 'new owner' is going to come off or not, and it would make a big difference, but as it appears that they don''t even know about it, we can assume it wasn't on the table when the RFL came out with their plan to 'help' us.
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| Quote: vbfg "If M Green and season ticket holders are taken care of (about 1.1 million if you believe his 900k figure, plus the value of the roughly 1k of STs sold up to mid November) then the remaining 50k, a figure cited by the RFL, represents half of one percent.
*And* it's very achievable, *and* there is as yet no indication that the half of one percent of creditor value will be dumped on.
Perhaps adjusting your exaggerated sense of entitlement will help.'"
The creditors figure quoted by the RFL was to "unconnected parties" which would therefore exclude Green.
The £50k is owed to other RL clubs due to Green not paying over advance ticket sales money.
Oh, and £50k is not 0.5% of the total, I think you need a new calculator !
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| Ha. Yes I do.
But in this administration process, where we very much still are, then it really is the smallest chunk.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be paid. *After* the ST holders it's the only one I care about. But the administrator isn't going to ignore the person he was employed by.
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