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Quote: HamsterChops "Just because a new coach comes in, doesn't change the fact that you can't just release a player from his contract and not pay him off (therefore still counting on salary cap). He'll still be in the predicament of having to find a new club for the players he doesn't want, in order to get them off the wage bill.

At the end of the season, sure, some players will no doubt be off. But I can't see it being immediately after he arrives. What club in their right mind would take Lauaki off our hands?'"


We've got 18, according to my figures, not including Chris Ulugia, who are ooc at the end of the year, so that's a fair old lump of cap money becoming available for next year.

The thing for me, is that I don't have any faith in anyone being promoted under the current system. So it makes little difference to me whether Smithy just lets this season go [yes, I know that's not going to happen - and I also know, full well, what the 'official line' is likely to be] and then after a big leaving do [not for all 18, obviously 'cos we'll want to keep quite few of them, imo] we' can make a fresh start and hope a few background things change.

I do expect that there will be some signings for this year, possibly even a half-back, but whatever the official policy, I'd expect any major signings to be for next year, though announced this season. Would that bother a lot of fans? Well, yes it probably would, I'm sure, but, as a long term fan who'll be here whatever, I'll be quite happy to ride with that, to be honest.

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The thing for me, is that I don't have any faith in anyone being promoted under the current system.'"

Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.

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Quote: redeverready "Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.'"


Oh aye. You need to hang a little more meat on those bones.

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Does a players' salary still count on the cap once they make an appearance? Because we've a handful of players who have only played once or twice.

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Quote: hindle xiii "Does a players' salary still count on the cap once they make an appearance? Because we've a handful of players who have only played once or twice.'"


once they make an appearance they count towards salary cap. not sure if that just applies for the current season or for every year they are contracted for though. Eg Walshaw played last year but hasn't featured yet this year ( he seems to have disappeared without trace TBF). He counted towards salary cap last year but does that also mean he counts towards cap this year,or does he have to make an appearance this year to count?.

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Quote: mat "once they make an appearance they count towards salary cap. not sure if that just applies for the current season or for every year they are contracted for though. Eg Walshaw played last year but hasn't featured yet this year ( he seems to have disappeared without trace TBF). He counted towards salary cap last year but does that also mean he counts towards cap this year,or does he have to make an appearance this year to count?.'"

I always assumed it was per season.

Still, a fair chunk of the cap has been wasted on those who have only played once or twice this season. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: redeverready "Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.'"


Come on Red you big tease. You can't say that and walk away.

Spill the beans. What have you heard?

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Quote: hindle xiii "a fair chunk of the cap has been wasted on those who have only played once or twice this season.
It's amazing that despite having such a bloated squad I think only two haven't yet appeared this season - Walshaw and Mendeika (plus Halahifi who got shipped out for the season)

But there's a fair few with only one or two appearances

Still, the fact that we've used 32 players so far might explain the somewhat disjointed appearances.

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Quote: redeverready "Might not need to be promoted things could be a changing.'"


Ah come on red, you can't leave us hanging like that! You're not one for posting made up rubbish so you've peaked our interest....what's the next line?

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Interesting in todays T&A, sounds like Smith definitely has plans to bring a couple of players in from NRL and is hoping to get some in on loan from Warrington.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Interesting in todays T&A, sounds like Smith definitely has plans to bring a couple of players in from NRL and is hoping to get some in on loan from Warrington.'"

Ryan Bailey maybe.

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Quote: mat "once they make an appearance they count towards salary cap. not sure if that just applies for the current season or for every year they are contracted for though. Eg Walshaw played last year but hasn't featured yet this year ( he seems to have disappeared without trace TBF). He counted towards salary cap last year but does that also mean he counts towards cap this year,or does he have to make an appearance this year to count?.'"



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Quote: chissitt "Ryan Bailey maybe.'"


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Quote: Duckman "Ah come on red, you can't leave us hanging like that! You're not one for posting made up rubbish so you've peaked our interest....what's the next line?'"


The next line is.....

"because the RFL are positively ttting themselves that their beloved Leeds could end up going down so they are hastily looking at ways to end the possibility of this happening."

In fairness, would SL not be better as a 16 team competition for example? I am certain that the league would hardly be weakened by the inclusion of the top 4 from the Championship going up the season and a proper P&R being introduced (2 up 2 down) from the following season?

For too long now proper RL sides like Fev, Fax etc have been pretty much devoid of any hope of ever getting into the top flight and this, to me, is wrong.

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Quote: mystic eddie "The next line is.....

"because the RFL are positively ttting themselves that their beloved Leeds could end up going down so they are hastily looking at ways to end the possibility of this happening."

In fairness, would SL not be better as a 16 team competition for example? I am certain that the league would hardly be weakened by the inclusion of the top 4 from the Championship going up the season and a proper P&R being introduced (2 up 2 down) from the following season?

For too long now proper RL sides like Fev, Fax etc have been pretty much devoid of any hope of ever getting into the top flight and this, to me, is wrong.'"


Think this is a brilliant idea (not only as we will be shunted up) if the NRL has 16 why cant we. Or even do 15 with Us Leigh and London going up. The issue I would have is amount of games players can play as with30 league games internationals and challenge cup the teams that go far will be having a lot. I think if it were to happen there should be a limit on amount of games players can play say 25 in the league im sure they used to do that in Oz

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