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Well done on the astonishing comeback, after being pretty well controlled by us for 65 minutes. Still, as they say, it's an 80 minute game, and I'm relieved there weren't another couple of minutes left, after you tied the scores!

As a Leigh fan, I was actually pleased with our performance - well, most of it anyway icon_wink.gif . For the past three games we have been largely unconvincing and have never got to grips with a game. Those first 65 minutes were a revelation, after what had gone before. Just like last season, it's all 'ifs and buts' at this stage, but I'd like to think that, once we get some of McNally, Armstrong, Tonga, Kay, Ridyard and Chase back on the pitch, our backs may tighten up in defence, and take advantage of the position our forwards are gaining for them.

Of course, it's doubtful if any of those guys could have improved on those 65 minutes!

One final thought, wasn't it refreshing to see two sides concentrating on the rugby, rather than endure 80 minutes like our first meeting last season?

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Quote: roger daly "Can't believe I buggered off after an hour having seen enough'"


Roger, do us a favour, if you are going to Blackpool - and stay for 80 minutes! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Alan "Roger, do us a favour, if you are going to Blackpool - and stay for 80 minutes!

Alan I never leave the game early, the wife was picking me up at 5. At 32-6 I text her to pick me up early, I had seen enough. On way home one of mates rang me to say we had drawn but thought he was winding me up. I thought we were terrible most of the game, even when Leigh were down to 12 men for 10 minutes we were poor on attack and then poor in defence. At one point Addy took a drive in from first man in our own 20, how many teams let their scrum half do that. All in all we were second best but scraped a draw so not too bad.

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O.k, a Leigh fans perspective.

Firstly, Ferocious Ardvark is in the main talking a load of old [iBo Lax[/i especially where the "energy" comments are made.
Leigh were not out of energy, they were found wanting in the backs, which prior to the game every Leigh fan knew would happen.
All your tries *bar 1 in 2nd half & the dropped ball interception in the 1st half were scored at the corner flag, partly because Adam Higson is not IMHO a winger. How many were scored in Higsons corner ?

I said before the game that if Caro got a yard or 2 on our wing then he would walk 'em in.

When Bulls opened up & started to chance it in the last 20 minutes our defence also dropped back & held off tackles where previously we had pressed the tackle with good line speed & solid defence.

Our pack was completely dominant & Bulls looked very 2nd rate for the first 50 > 60 minutes, Higham, Hansen & Hopkins destroyed your forward line, along with Patterson *playing out of position*.

Somebody said something like "most Leigh fans view it as a point gained * utter $H!T€ *, just walking out of the ground you could hear tens of fans saying "can't believe we threw it away", & this is true, a complete capitulation by Leigh in that last 20, take nothing away from Bradford, you deserved the draw, you played very well in the backs for 20 minutes, but prior to that you were less than poor.

There has to be something wrong with the Leigh players mindset to throw away that lead, most fans at 6 - 32 thought we would go on to score 50, not monumentally balls it all up so spectacularly.

As good as it got for Leigh fans it was equalled by the ridiculous soft tries late on, a little hand off & a step & Higson was done every time.

No excuses, we were great, you were carp, then we were carp & you were better.

I really don't know where that leaves either team.

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Think it leaves us both in the championship next year

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Quote: Budgiezilla "Totally agreed, why have Sporting Life/BBC/Loverugbyleague stopped doing it.....Bizarre !

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The official ones at superleague.co.uk and rugbyleaguechampionship.co.uk too.

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Leigh didn't create a single try today - we gave away 5 tries. They ran through our forwards at the start of both halves for about 15 minutes like they weren't even there and slowed down our PTB. But realistically they didn't create anything of note, just mindless defending from us on all accounts, from memory.

The comeback was simply awesome. I've not seen anything like it. We went from zeros to heros in no time at all. Who knew Haggerty could be a creative force with his boot?

Today's game was a great advert for the Championship and has made the rivalry ever more enthralling. Games like this will make the fair weather fans want to come more often, and that can only be a good thing.

Also, try the pizza if you haven't already. It was bloody lovely.

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Quote: DrFeelgood "Leigh didn't create a single try today - we gave away 5 tries. They ran through our forwards at the start of both halves for about 15 minutes like they weren't even there and slowed down our PTB. But realistically they didn't create anything of note, just mindless defending from us on all accounts, from memory.

The comeback was simply awesome. I've not seen anything like it. We went from zeros to heros in no time at all. Who knew Haggerty could be a creative force with his boot?

Today's game was a great advert for the Championship and has made the rivalry ever more enthralling. Games like this will make the fair weather fans want to come more often, and that can only be a good thing.

Also, try the pizza if you haven't already. It was bloody lovely.'"


Based on this post and some you made earlier in the week, you seem to have some serious bitterness and resentment towards Leigh.
To say they didn't create any tries today is laughable - they played us off the park for 65 minutes and, for reasons that I am still struggling to comprehend, decided to simply stop competing for the last 15 and let us back in it.

Today proved that if your pack is on top, then your backs can be as average as you like and you will still score points. That Leigh pack was far too big for us to handle today, we simply had no answer. Once you lose the forward battle then it is always going to be difficult for your creative players to have any influence on the match.
I'm sure most Leigh fans will agree with me that their backs are nothing special right now. Throw the likes of McNally, Tonga, Kay and Ridyard into that side and they look really strong. But today it didn't even matter, they had so much space that even playing a second rower at 6 paid dividends for them!

I can't believe Jimmy went into that game with us trying to match them up front. It might be different once Clough and Kavanagh are back, but with today's pack we were always going to get mullered if we drove it up the middle. And yet for 65 minutes that's all we did, barely making any inroads and creating nothing as a result.
Has he bothered to look at videos of Leigh's recent games? He can't have, otherwise he would have known their defense out wide was suspect.
Honestly, I just have absolutely no confidence in him as a coach. Tactically he just seems completely amateur, and then when you throw in his comments about us not needing a seven, it makes you wonder how he ever got the gig in the first place.

Final comment - Mitch Clark is an absolute beast, easily our best signing during this off season. He ran his blood to water today and never took a backwards step.

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At least Jimmy acknowledges that it was down to his coaching techniques in the post match conference. Hopefully he'll put it right next time given a bit of hindsight.

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A broken hand for Sidlow is a blow but hopefully we can get through next week and Clough should be back which will help fill the gap. How many times will Jimmy admit it was probably his fault as the coach before the owner realises that also.

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I thought we came out and played to a lower intensity which showed by the various mistakes and penalties we gave away. Our game plan of playing up the middle with a very structured game also played into the hands of Leigh who were much stronger in the forwards. 90% of our carries ended up with the ball carrier being put on his back. That meant our PTB was really slow. In contrast the Leigh forwards either got offloads away or were playing the ball with our tacklers on the floor. With that platform Higham had a field day making ground around the ruck.

At 6-32 with 24mins to go I thought we were in for a serious thrashing. Defensively we were playing like individuals but I thought Lowes stopped the rot when he subbed three forwards. We then seemed to play more expansively, as if the shackles were off. Clare went from having a non descript game to getting us right back into it. I thought Haggerty had a super second spell and Clark really ran his blood to water.

Even though Leigh brought Higham back on it was too late for them. The pendulum had swung and once we got possession it looked like we’d score every time we got the ball in the last 10mins.

I’m glad to see Lowes saying that the draw won’t make up for the 65mins of dross we served up. Plenty to work on and losing Sidlow is a blow since he was the one forward that did anything for us in that first hour. The weakness in the pack going forward is concerning. We need Clough and Kavanagh back soon. I can see us struggling vs Fax and away at Batley unless we show a bit more up front.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Sorry but that's just plain wrong, at no point did they "look like they couldn't give a toss", I don't mind different points of view but while they looked a poor second best for much of the first hour, one thing they did do is keep going.'"

I don't think it's wrong. I equate not giving a toss to a lack of effort which was blatantly obvious in that first hour. E.g when Smith wrestled off three players to plant the ball down after being held up just short of the line. Just not good enough. Once their attitude picked up and they realised they had half a chance the game changed and they were exiting to watch.

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Having just read all comments. I don't think there's a whole lot extra to add. Agree on performance-wise, the likes of Clare, Haggerty and Clark won it for us in the last 15. I would also add Pitts to that too.

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Think problem with our pack is our back rowers are too small. We've got some good props. Pitts, Olbison, Haggerty are all good players, but when you're playing all 3 of them plus Blythe, you are giving away some serious size. For me i would move Lovegrove into back row as he's too small for a prop and i would give Walshaw a run of games. He was MOM last time we played Leigh...

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