I don't think VP is a viable option for the Bulls, that said I wouldn't be hugely unhappy if we ended up there.

The SV makes the most sense for all parties concerned, economically and socially speaking.

Many fans (from both clubs) will probably say they're against a move, in reality though, how many will actually STOP going? A small percentage in the medium to long term I would estimate.
At the end of the day, we all want to see our clubs performing to the highest level, I don't think people would mind where that is.
A superleague winning side at VP v's a NL2 side at Odsal? I know where I'd rather be.

A big stumbling block is the emotional tie to VP for City fans, the few I know haven't got an issue with moving, but I accept there will be some with strong feelings attached to VP.
I think as suggested a memorial, naming of a stand, the indoor arena, or whatever would be a good starting point.

Here here.

Looking at OSV, I just think it won't happen. Bradford Council in my opinion never have and never will be bothered about the Bulls or City. How the OSV has slowly progressed so far does not feel me with much confidence. In Bradford if something is not planned & built straight away it won't happen, e.g. Broadway, Previous Odsal Schemes, etc. Like many other Bulls' fans it really annoys me with the excellent location Odsal has it just seems destine to be never be developed. Unless a massive injection of cash is given to the Bulls, VP is the only option. I'd rather see the Bulls go to VP on our terms rather than in few years be forced down to VP when OSV has failed and the Bulls cannot afford Odsal, which knowing the Bulls luck it will & see the Bulls under the thumb of City which I don't want to happen, e.g. Wigan. Bulls need a modern stadium now not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10+ years time. Its embarrassing when 'lower' clubs like Doncaster, Leigh, to name a few have new stadiums now. Like 'Wigan Bull' stated do we have top flight rugby at VP or play lower level rugby at a run down Odsal because its 'where the Bulls should be' which would echoe from a lot of older Bulls/Northern fans.

Your post shows that you need to do some mugging up on the OSV. Peter Hood is extremely confident that it will happen, and the fact is that it is NOT Bradford Council's project, nor the Bulls'.

There's infinitely more chance of OSV happening than a "massive injection of cash being given to the Bulls", that is for sure.

It does seem that the OSV has more chance than previous projects and while it has the backing of the major players and the club it should be supported by the supporters.

Going to VP isn't something we should consider while the OSV is on the table.

I've nothing against OSV just cannot see it happening, I think its because we've been let down so many times, not just the Bulls but Bradford in general it just leads me thinking 'here we go again'. From my first post ideally I would like City & the Bulls to have there own grounds but just cannot see it happening thats all. From Bulls Website: "The partners in the scheme are Bradford College, the University of Bradford, Sport England, Bradford Bulls, the Primary Care Trust, Bradford Council and Yorkshire Forward." I stand corrected Aardvark but I still don't think it will happen because I am expecting dates, with the 3 year licences in play the Bulls or any other club cannot depend on 'mays, ifs & possibilies'. I think the RFL will look at undeveloped grounds in a much harsher light the next time especially with promises like Wakefield been broken already much to the annoyance of Widnes' fans.

And yet this message does not seem to be getting out to some people. rlThis can't helprl, one (highly tangential) news result in ther past month.

Like he was confident of Greg Bird Playing for us, or confident that we would win the Harris case, or the confidence he has in Steve McNamara as the most intelligent Rugby league brain he has ever met.


he needs to get out more!

But people who live in the Aire Valley aren't from Bradford, they are from Bingley, Keighley or wherever,

Just because the government, in their wisdom, decided to create a Bradford Met District doesn't mean that people are now Bradfordians, because they aren't.

In fact if they weren't part of thos faux district we might actually get more things done in Bradford itself, the leaders of our council all live out in Haworth, Ilkley etc and don't actually seem to be in touch with the reality of life in then city.

He does? or maybe it's you who has this need.
Extract from a February 2009 updateA specialist team has been appointed to the Odsal Sports Village as the scheme takes another step forward.

Bradford Council selected EC Harris following a rigorous tender process to carry out feasibility studies to deliver the Odsal Sports Village.

EC Harris, in conjunction with their partners, WSP, DLA Architecture and Strategic Leisure, have a wealth of sports, leisure and stadia expertise with previous projects including the MEN Arena in Manchester, the English Institute of Sports Centres of Excellence at Loughborough University, Leigh Sports Village and the Bisham Abbey National Sports Centre.

Leader of Bradford Council and chairman of the Odsal Sports Village Steering Group, Coun Kris Hopkins, saidWe have received overwhelming support from a large number of partners who all share our vision to provide a world-class facility in Bradford that can be enjoyed by everyone in the district and we are determined to deliver it."
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So, you do seriously believe that the whole lot of all these major bodies are all entirely wasting their time, and money, for nothing. It's a point of view.

I suggest that only BMDC and the bulls have put any money in yet . The rest have supported the scheme in principle, or will put money into it at a later date! these organisations will only invest when it is sure to happen. we are still funding (We as in Bulls fans and Bradford taxpayers) feasability studies.

So I am not suggesting they are all wasting their time, I am suggesting they are biding their time!

Read what I write, not what you want to see!

They have put money into it.

HTH


I unfortuantely do read what you write. As you appear to suffer from short term memory loss, I suggest you do likewise. To suggest you do NOT think they are wasting their time, but simply biding their time, is the opposite of what you said, which is, specifically, that you expect OSV to "fail".

WTF would I "want" to see from you? I don't know you! You're the self-styled cynic whose stated opinion, and which I note is your considered opinion and not mere cynicism, is that "it will not happen".

It is quite ironic that you mention Leigh, btw, when the people appointed to crack on with the next stage are the same people that were responsible for the nuts and bolts of the Leigh project.