I felt it was an entertaining game between 2 fairly evenly matched sides, 1 of which unfortunately took their chances better.

We had Ryan in the corner in the first minute or 2, Webster’s horrible pass to Hitchcox when it looked a certain try, Flanagan held up over the line, Hitchcox right at the end in the corner.

If just 2 of those go our way we win the game and the outlook is completely different. Score all of them and it looks a comfortable victory. Unfortunately we got none of them.

Also York’s try given when our player grounded it first.

It wasn’t a terrible performance and once again these 2 rivals served up a good spectacle.

Some of the comments i’ve seen on some of the social media platforms are over the top. We lost by 10 points to the team that finished ahead of us last season in L1. There is no disgrace in that. It is early days and unfortunately at the moment we are contending with a few key injuries to players that would be in the team. We will get better and more clinical over the season I’m sure.

I think there are some unrealistic expectations in the fan base about what we can achieve this year.

Looking at the results and the table so far it is going to be a ridiculously close season and unfortunately we are going to have to suck up some defeats where we felt we could perhaps have won.

I watched the Leigh v Toronto game this eve and that was a pretty close affair. On that showing Toronto will not have it all their own way this year and Leigh will be yet another tough team that we will have to work extremely hard against to try and defeat.

Yes I've got to agree with all comments so far. As much as the ref was aweful, our play was diabolical at times especially during the 1st half.

As has been said previous we've got probably the best back line in the league on paper - so y not use them

Few of our men (no names) want rockets up their asses. Hopefully better performance next week after a sterm word or 10 from JK or it's gunna b a long hard season

In York 20, 4 points behind, can someone please explain why Kirk has 2 drives (Inc last tackle). Complete lack of ideas?

Agree with the majority of previous comments. See little evidence of the benefit of 22 full time training squad ….little cohesion or planned moves in evidence. When we do move it wide we seem capable but too much ploughing down the middle and little yardage gained. JK does need to consider a change of team - forced (suspensions) or not as this group clearly not working at the moment and there are 'others in the wings waiting for a place'. Good to see Matty Storton get a run out, deserves more minutes. Surprised the attendance was nearly 2000 less than the Fev game?

I'd be looking at the idiot who decided to pass to a prop in such a position. Can't really have a go at Kirk in such a situation, he's not in the side for his creativity!

The lack of ideas is down to the coaching, or lack of it.

Where to begin? Well I agree with almost all of the comments so far but we must still remember that we were runners up in L1. Yesterday we were missing 4 props and so were always going to struggle to make ground. I thought it was a bit closer than the score suggested. York were the better team, I don’t think the ref was all that bad to be honest.

Our main problems are to do with our attacking play. It’s always more difficult if you’re losing up front but today we actually looked more threatening with ball in hand in our own half than we did when we were in theirs. We seem to lack any kind of attacking structure when we’re on the opposition line. The set of plays when we ended up giving the ball to Kirk twice sums us up. The halfbacks seem unable to organise anything unless it is a kick to Ethan Ryan. I think this lack of idea contributes to the brain farts we make in attack too like running directly into touch (Flanagan) and running over the dead ball line (Kraniqi). It’s frustrating because when we spread the ball we looked really good, especially on Webster’s side. The try to Pickersgill was excellent. Why can’t we be creative like that when we’re on the opposition line? When York were attacking us they had lots of runners and looked really organised. With us it’s the opposite. We hardly ever offload in the tackle, so much so that when it happens it takes players by surprise and nearly leads to us giving the ball away. This has got to be down to the way the team is coached. Is this a weakness in Kear’s coaching?


Defensively I think we started the season ok but as we go on I think coaches are starting to target our weakness around the ruck. Our lack of big lads meant York were on the front foot and too often we didn’t get numbers in the tackle and they were running at a defence that was back pedalling.

The lack of props means we’re not getting much impact off the bench either. I did think Storton added something when he came on but there wasn’t much from anyone else.

We really need Peltier and Bustin back. Keyes too since I think our halfbacks are playing too inconsistently. Both had mixed games. One minute you had a great kick the next they were kicking dead. That’s criminal with the 7 tackle set. Both need to get more idea in attack than just booting it to Ethan Ryan. What about forcing a goal line drop out?

Apparently Bustin is approaching fitness again, same for Wilson too. They can’t come back quick enough.

Thought we failed to win the game in the first 20 mins rather than lost it in the last 20.frustrating but it was an entertaining game.need keyes back to get the back rowers firing.some good attacking lines are being run but the halves choose to ignore them.

We’re definitely missing Keyes in attack. While he’s out I’d be tempted to play Minchella at loose forward so he can get his hands on the ball more.

Frustrating game to be honest. York probably deserved the points, for no other reason than any team which caves in, twice, through the middle doesn't deserve to win anything. The score flattered them somewhat though.

I don't think York were particularly impressive either and I can't see either of these sides troubling the top three or four, certainly not on yesterday's form. We do still have some 'big hitters' to come back though so all is not lost but we do need to achieve some forward dominance or we won't get anywhere. Getting Pelts and Bustin back may create the space to let Minnie return to his running form of last year. I also think that Jordan Lilley needs to be able to cut back on some of the tackling he's being forced into (ie someone else, preferably some big forwards, ought to be taking up the slack) as it's clearly affecting his running and distribution game when he's forced into being a tackling machine.

On a final note, I hope the young lass who was taken to hospital is OK. She was getting all the necessary care form the medical staff but still went off in an ambulance, hopefully it was just for checks and to be safe.

I'd throw both in for Toulouse. As others have said, we are desperately needing some players to provide some impact and do something. We have too many grafters in there. All willing workers who will tackle and take the BALL up all day long but nothing is happening. Hallas isn't going to create a try or bust a tackle so is wasted at 13 on a dry pitch against York. You want him there when it's going to be a slog on a small pitch.

Get Minchella at 13 to give Lilley and Chisholm more space. Bustin to come off the bench for a 10 min spell either side of HT. I'd throw Wilson in there too.

At this point I'd be looking to play Milnes instead of Lilley, and once Keyes is back seeing how Milnes and Keyes go together.
It seems as though Lilley's decent game against Featherstone was a one time thing - he's been poor since then.

For me we are too all or nothing at the minute. It's drive, drive...kick or 'Woah!! Weve bust a tackle we HAVE to score no matter what' We seem to lack the will to build pressure or maintain composure.

And though Webster was a stand out for me that 'pass'..... My daughter could have thrown it better so it seems our short burst excitability infects old heads joining us.

Ditto to other comments... Bustin, Peltier, Wilson and Green can't wait until they are available as we are really struggling with Kear's predictable tactics.

Spoke to Mikey Wood after the game and he looked sick as a dog to be missing out. Don't know what he's done wrong tbh... he's been played out of position since start of the year yet still done a reasonable job and defensively makes us better in the middle.

Whereas we have a fat knacker in Krasniqi who offers absolutely zero to this team (I mean how thick is the guy to run himself dead in goal?) and Hallas who I admire for his heart and passion but again is a 5/10 time player at best.

Storton did well when he cam on but again similar to Wood was being played out of position and as a prop. I can see the problem, others can see it but yet Kear seems oblivious. His interview in the Southbank after the game had me thinking if I was watching the same game as him!!!

Chisholm needs to start earning his wage as he's carried on from where he left off last year. Lilley is struggling on his own and is getting no help from either his forwards or half back partner. Keyes is back in training I think and hoping to be back next week so fingers crossed he can come in and shake up things at least there.

I know its only four games in but this 5 drives and a kick only works if the forwards can actually win the arm wrestle... and on the showing so far they are no where near!!!

Spot on, I agree completely.



Agree with all that. Can't believe Wood wasn't in the side. He's a big lad and can play long minutes. When we were without Magrin or Green in the 17 I couldn't believe Wood wasn't picked. Krasniqi is a waste of space and if I was Wood I'd be wondering what I'd done wrong to not get picked.

Storton for me offered more playing at prop than Farrell did in the second row.

Chisholm had his usual mixed bag of a game. That's what you get with him. It does put pressure on the other half back and I thought Lilley had a better game than he's had for a couple of weeks. He ran a lot straighter and his kick and chase in the second half to force the drop out was excellent. He did also come up with some ordinary plays in the opposition 20m. When we get there we seem to lack ideas.

I've a feeling 5 drives and a kick is the Kear way. While we scored a heap of points last season it was more down to us wearing teams out than slick attacking play. Against tougher opposition we're being shown up as a bit one dimensional. It's frustrating because we see glimpses of better things.

So frustrating, it must be down to Kear`s tactics. With a fit rosta of props that style of play would be OK but with our lightweight forwards at the moment why not change things to accommodate our lack of size. Our defence from PTB is at times abysmal, York made yards virtually every play. Farrell is all heart but like Hallas isn`t big enough and never breaks the line. Pickersgill cannot beat a man on fielding a kick (if he catches cleanly). Chisolm to me is coasting and pinching money, he is a quarter of the player from when he was first signed for us. The three-quarters are more than adequate, in fact Ryan must be the best winger outside SL. Hopefully Kear will change tactics against Toulouse or we will be beaten again.