Rather presumptuous of beating 5th, then beating the winner of 3rd/4th - all capable of a big performance.

How did your last sudden death game go?

Where on earth has anyone mention beating the 5th placed side. Let alone going up, I think you will find given our results against Workington some are aprehensive about the situation.

Take your wakey trolling elsewhere. To add your chairman was on social media making a fool of himself last night fishing for bites about the bulls. Needs to carry himself with a bit more dignity

We lost at Warrington - is it relevant?

I don't know, I mean you yourself seemed quite confident of us being promoted on Wednesday morning when you posted: "...2019 RFL Championship is looking like it'll be a cracker of a competition, with London, Toulouse, Halifax, Bradford all gunning for the one spot..."

What has changed your mind since then?

No one said that... He literally meant THIS game is pointless as we can't finish anywhere other than second. We haven't mentioned the play-offs or how we'll fare in them. I genuinely can't understand why you're finding it so hard to understand. Or you're just trolling.

Nothus wrote:
...we can't be caught by whoever is in third place so again it doesn't matter.

Because I believe you are favourites (albeit via play-offs), to go up and create an even more interesting race for SL next year. Of course, that is a given now the restructure is confirmed.

The comment was about the seemingly arrogant presumption that you would definitely be promoted...there's a difference between probability and certainty.

I'm not sure where you picked up on this "...arrogant presumption..." as there are many people (myself included) dreading having to go through playoffs what with our record in one-off games being so poor.

And you mention beholding an "arrogant presumption" on this thread whilst also presuming that we would go up as you consider us favourites too?

Isn't that a little arrogant?

Besides we are not currently promoted. According to Aaron Bower "...there's now a meeting of Champs/L1 clubs taking place imminently to determine how their competitions are formatted under the new structure. Super League have no say in that - so it's up to them whether Championship goes to 14 etc. Should know more this PM..."

Nothus wrote "This game is meaningless regardless of the outcome of the vote on Friday. The new structure gets approved and we're up anyway. The new structure doesn't get approved and we can't be caught by whoever is in third place so again it doesn't matter."

It says, whatever the scenario, we are going up, no-one can catch or beat us. That's arrogant.

Me saying I think you are favourites to go up, via play offs, is an informed judgement based on the relative strengths and performances of the clubs involved, over the course of the season.

That's not arrogance.

Very interesting what you say about the Champs/L1 clubs now deciding how it works, rather than the simple "promote 1st and 2nd" though - they could keep an play-off system. Maybe clubs have budgeted for those extra games, which would be pretty profitable for the clubs involved.

I think the Champs clubs would very much like Bulls up though, for the same business reasons, and may not want to risk them failing in a one-off game.

That's not what I meant. The game is meaningless because our league position can't change now. York won't slip up so we can't move up to first, and it's impossible for third place to catch us and move us down from second spot in the table.

I wasn't talking about being promoted or the playoffs at all, literally just this weekend's game against Oldham.

I think he knew exactly what you meant; as I'm sure everyone else did. I think he is just here for some stirring.

Thanks. I didn't read it that way, but thanks for the clarity. There is still chance that York could mess up their last game...