It makes you sick seeing kids growing up in Bradford supporting Leeds Lol..

It makes me ill to think of anybody at any age supporting Leeds.

Players can't be getting similar deals unless we have a lot less of them or someone is gonna pump huge amounts of money into the club, that's just pie in the sky. Even if you guesstimated an average loss of income per month from reduced gates of £30,000 you can see the problem and that's without looking at the reduced ability to get decent amounts of sponsorship money playing in the stiffs leagues.

I'd have tended to start from the proposition that we are in a shiit league playing shiit teams and nobody much will be interested in most of the games, (home to Hemel Hempstead, anyone?)so I'd be looking at halving the prices and trying to keep the numbers up to try to avoid as many as possible simply getting out of the habit. I'd also be absolutely smashing kids for free with adult deals, that type of thing. . That isn't meant to be scientific BTW but I think the important thing is to sway the lukewarms into keepng coming, not to milk the diehards.

But that's just me, and frankly I can't see a way to make the numbers add up in 2018 anyway unless we end up with a Hemel hempstead standard squad so callme Mr. Pessimist, but we've been told (a) we have no money and (b) we are turning away epople with money, so it ain't rocket science.

I agree it doesn't add up unless we're really done well with the sponsorship or the amount of fulltimers is going to be an absolute minimum.

Otherwise we're looking at a 90% part time squad. We should find out one way or the other over the next 4-5 months. If it's a Hemel standard squad then those of us holding out to see won't be part of the 3000. Not sure where they're coming from.

I don't mind a ST freeze as long as we get a competitive squad.

However, if this is the start of the rebuild, we need the kids on board. Free season tickets for all Bradford school kids. I don't think we'll lose a huge amount of money by giving them away

Also i don't think kids get quite as hooked up on the fact we're playing Hemel as what we do. If they see us winning and scoring lots of tries every week they'll want to come everyweek.

Also they'll soon lose interest if we're scraping wins over Hemel so we need a proper squad that's intending to get promoted.

Over to you Chalmers!

Hope we do get some decent numbers because plenty of C1 sides sure aren't packing them in.

977 at Barrow
562 at Whitehaven
441 at Workington
333 at Hunslet
268 at Coventry
114 at Hemel
65 SIXTY FIVE! at Oxford.

660 at Swinton yesterday. Say if 300 were Bulls fans they're the definite hard core. Chalmers is aiming for 10 times that amount to sign up for a season ticket.

Why not offer ST at a cheap price if we sold say 10k. That worked in the past, we sold loads.

I genuinely don't know where they're getting 3,000 season tickets at the same prices as the division above from. It makes no sense.

Unless of course the conspiracy theories proved correct. Because aiming for 3,000 at the same price whilst in the same division, WOULD make sense.

I actually think it would a stretch in the Championship, given the general discontent and malaise around the Bulls these days

Perhaps, but it's much easier sold. "This season we won't start on -12 and we've had plenty of time to get a team together, instead of cobbling together all those who were too crap to get another club with a week's notice, so we must have a better chance in the competition than last year". I suspect they'd word it slightly better, but I'm sure that would be the subtext.

(Or at least they'd try and word it better, until the numb bugger in charge of the website had to type it up)

As I said earlier in the piece, I'm not getting hung up on the number of STs we sell, the overall attendance figure is the important one to me.

If there are positive vibes about the club, which is essentially a squad which looks as though it can hold its own and no bad news before the season starts.....then I think, given fair results, we can gradually build on the ST sales with some decent roll-up figures. As always, there too many things we don't know, too many things we think we know, but don't and probably too many things we don't even know we don't know.