And if you ask what time is the KO they ask what time can you get there!!

Had heard Lovegrove was retiring due to the amount of head knocks taken. Not sure how true but would make sense, not worth risking more than your rugby career

Ha thats put what i got told out the window haha. Joking apart can see a few of the contracted players leaving going to be very intersting over next few months

Today's fluff piece is about Charnock potentially coming to us properly. I'd like to see us take him on and use him as a ball handling 13, especially if Addy is going and Leon is to come in at 6. That would give us a spine of Moss, Pryce, Chisholm, AOB, Charnock.

I'd still like to use him as a 9. Start him with AOB coming off the bench. It gives good cover then as if one of the halves goes down, Charnock can always move there. If Moss goes down, Pryce could go to fullback with Charnock into halves. If nobody goes down, you get two hookers sharing the role as Rohan seems to want.

Then when one of the halves inevitably ends up injured for a few games, you can move Charnock there and bring in Lumb. Lumb gets some game time to see him improve, without him having to play almost every game, barring a few injuries.

Not sure about playing him at 9. Part of me still thinks we'll end up signing Falloon for next year.
I'd take Charnock as a loose forward though, let him and Pitts share the role (hopefully Pitts stays) and Pitts might end up spending more time in the 2nd row where I think he is more effective.

If there is a next season (not for this thread try all the others) then I think we'll need cover for Pryce (if he does actually come) as he isn't getting any younger and Keyes and Thomas can be inconsistent.

I think Haggerty is good enough to play loose forward for us if we want someone with a bit of ball playing ability there. Personally I'd like us to go with 5 props. 2 in the front row, 2 on the bench and a mobile prop sort of player at 13. We've been out muscled far too often this season and we need to inject some size and aggression into the forward pack.

Don't think charnock is good enough, especially if we sign pryce. The reason he's looking to leave saints is due to a lack of first team rugby. I don't see him as a hooker, as we need to start recruiting players for the positions they're suited if we're going to get anywhere, and we need a much stronger pack so loose is out of the question.

IMO we need an experienced hooker. A Micky higham (if only) type player. Someone who can take the game by the scruff of the neck and guide us from the play of the ball. Too many times do we get a quick play of the ball in good position and go the wrong way or get a slow ball out.

The pack needs strengthening that's for certain. Some big, mean, hard hitting forwards. Every other championship team has plenty who run through us! Featherstone kicked us to death, because they knew our forwards couldn't make up the metres. Pitts isn't good enough, no more of these 'ball handling' back rowers. We need a big, mean pack to punch some holes in the opposition. Olbison and mellor just qualify really.

That and another strong, steady centre would be a great start for next season...if there is one.

I agree. I fear Charnock is really just an Addy mk 2. Jack of all trades.

Olbison has gone backwards this year IMO. In 2015 he looked like he was coming good - this year he's struggled to make ground in attack. Mellor has got a lot of developing to do yet so an obvious keeper.

Agree we need a big mean pack. Clark could be a cornerstone of it. We need fearless, slightly mad players like him.

I've come to accept that Clark is gone after this season. The rumours have gone on for far too long and from so many different sources for there to be nothing in it.

Anyone half decent will be off soon.

And who could blame them?

I have a lot of faults, but one of them isn't being bad at my job. If my employers didn't pay me, I wouldn't be turning up to work. I'd be happy to accept the same position elsewhere for someone who wanted to actually pay me.