Which game were you watching? burrow wasnt playing in one rest of us watched

I don't much care about line balls drifting forwards that much. It's annoying but it's hardly ever a deliberate attempt to cheat, they're just squeezing the margins. The entire ruck is a shambles this year though. This "have another go" nonsense has to go, they've almost lost control of it completely.

He was woeful. Missed forward passes for both teams.

But i was foaming when he sent Elima to the sin bin (which looked like he was just waiting to do. Couldn't wait to whip out his yellow card) How can he whip out his yellow for back chatting, then Griffin hits our player from behind, when the ball is dead and doesn't even get a yellow. Lets see if he gets a ban from the RFL!!

The standard and consistency is a joke this year. We have Thaler just waiting to send Elima to the sin bin, then Sam Tomkins back chatting in an aggressive manner to Bentham and doesn't even get a warning!!! If Elima is back chatting fair enough, but after seeing what Sam Tomkins dished out to Bentham, yet doesn't even get a warning infuriates me.

Tomkins made contact with the ref' too. Wonder if he'll get the three matches Bailey did.

Well it was a little bloke in Leeds shirt..

Thaler had a poor night, and he used to be a better ref. he seems to have put a fair bit of timber on, and it's affecting his positioning.

However, and extremely irritating though it was to see Leeds score the opener off two ridculously obvious forward passes, he was never helped on the forwards all night by Methuselah and Ezekiel, I'm not ageist, they just need to do their job but these guys couldn't see anything.

He also wasn't helped (probably - since we fans aren't let in on these secrets any more) by an edict from above that says manoeuvring on top of the tackled player, and a couple of seconds of "prone statue" pose, are now acceptable, as is a dinosaur-like one second delay on "move".

One Leeds tactic which was certainly illegal last year is one where a player (often Sinfield) ends up covering the tackled player, sideways. He just stays still in that position till the ref shouts, but then instead of getting off, gets up by putting both hands on the tackled players back, and pushing off him as he manoeuvres through 90 degrees into position at marker.

Leeds were masters of slowing down our PTB, and it was so monotonous I assume it must be legal. For a spell in the first half I watched the tackles against my stopwatch, and there where whole sets where the tackles took between 5 - 7 seconds and that is just too long.

Are you serious ? Get a life mate.

What do you mean by that?

so apparently he got nothing right..... was thaler wrong to send off hargreaves for a tackle that is in my book a 'neckbreaker'?

No, should have been L'Estrange.

As your comment proves indisputably that you didn't actually see the tackle, I award you an epic fail.

Well seeing as he got the wrong player, yes it would be safe to assume he got nothing right.