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| Only Macc has suggested anything to counter the points I have made. His point re contract status seems plausible - the only way contracts would have been ended, would be if Bulls ceased to exist and no-one wants that. Feel for Potter if that contract status doesn't extend to coaching staff.
Telling me I am wrong and calling me names is not "making a case" Adey.
I am more than happy to admit I am "wrong"to hold my opinion if you can show me how.
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| Quote: dboy "Adey - just looked back over all your posts to page 8 - you haven't at any point made a "case", that addresses the points made.
Macc - Not sure what you mean about my "language" - sorry if it threatens you. But hey, at last, a possible explanation as to why the squad has been kept together! The SL contract rules seems plausible (soccer has something similar), but it seems this is only players then??
As to research - I hope you don't mean the forums!! Not reliable.
Working within means, does not mean working at a profit, just that you can pay your bills. Which Bulls couldn't. And still can't. If you could you would be paying Potter,
Oh and don't avoid the AUP to swear at me and abuse me!'"
It's in the superleague contracts and as part of the SL operating rules. If the administrator hadn't had funds to pay the players the club would have folded. The consequences of this would have been well bad mid season for the whole of Rugby League. Especially when SL are looking to find a new title sponsor from next season. But to one eyed morons the advance on central funding that every other club got was down to us getting special treatment. Nothing to do with ensuring all fixtures were fulfilled to ensure the intergrity of the competition for this season.
The staff are unaffected by this so were laid off. Nigel Wood went on record a month or so ago about how the other clubs had agreed not to make offers for Bulls players so there's nothing the admin can do on that front. So direct your bile at them.
Sorry but it's exactly the same. Only two or three clubs live within their means. Director loans at some other clubs are more than what the Bulls owe so this holier than thou prudence rubbish we are constantly subjected to by fans of other clubs is getting boring.
I think you'll find there are a lot of businesses out their paying bills on the never never at the moment yet people who have no idea what it's like to try and run a business when times are hard suddenly become experts and trot out this ethical crap.
Whatever has gone on in running the club right or wrong is in no way the fault of us fans, the players, the staff or any of the volunteers involved in some really good work at Odsal. The last few months have been extremely hard and to be in the position we are now on the field and the feeling on the terraces is something great. Your argument is bogus it's not offensive to anyone just small mindedness that brings this bile our way.
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| Quote: dboy "You can't afford your squad! How can you think you can, when you can't pay the rest of the staff?
The business is still running, yet you rely on advances of money from the RFL and on key staff volunteering to work for free.
What is the biggest single drain on your cash flow then? Any business in trouble would cut any costs it can to stay alive, including laying off staff.
I'm not concerned about how much selling players on would raise - it's about reducing your outgoings to match your income.
You are being artificially supported, allowing you to ignore the need to cut your cloth accordingly and seem to think there is some glory in it!'"
There's nothing artificial about it. The RFL are a real organisation who need to run a real comp. The RFL decided it was better to forward the club's TV money than see,
1, The club not fulfil its fixtures
2, Players made redundant
You don't like it but you don't have the responsibility of running the game either.
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| Macc - I appreciate your explanation - I can see the sense in much that you say.
You should leave out digs such as bogus, small-mindedness, one-eyed, bile & crap; don't belittle the opinion of others, just because you don't agree or don't like it.
The rest of your post makes some sense and is welcomed.
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| Is this the right point mention that this team, which we are apparently overpaying, and is giving us such a tremendous unfair advantage over everyone else, was tipped to finish bottom of the league by at least one pundit (I wont say 'expert') on Sky?
Still, even that person's limited knowledge is way beyond that of many on here these days..
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| Quote: Bulliac "Is this the right point mention that this team, which we are apparently overpaying, and is giving us such a tremendous unfair advantage over everyone else, was tipped to finish bottom of the league by at least one pundit (I wont say 'expert') on Sky?
Still, even that person's limited knowledge is way beyond that of many on here these days..
I pointed out the same to the said pundit on twitter, attaching a link to Heath's comments in the T&A. She, oops, meant he.. said we should be thanking him/her for the giving the team inspiration!! (all in good humour, bare in mind!)
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| Quote: daveyz999 "I pointed out the same to the said pundit on twitter, attaching a link to Heath's comments in the T&A. She, oops, meant he.. said we should be thanking him/her for the giving the team inspiration!! (all in good humour, bare in mind!)'"
To be fair to said 'Skyspert', every team seemed to have recruited well and though I always felt we'd be around the eight, I can understand why we might have been picked as there were no obvious candidates and (s)he maybe didn't want to put the boot in on the one obvious favourite, the new boys, who were always going to struggle early doors. It was probably done with a blindfold and pin.
Maybe (s)he should stick to finding the best baby change facilities...
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| She did predict a top 8 finish for us, just a year early...
dboy. stadium costs were much higher than most other clubs, but I cannot imagine Guilfoyle spending any money on that. so that plus the coaching and admin staff will be a big cut in cash outflow. Most clubs will be getting by cash flow wise at this point in the season on sky money and sugar daddy funding, as the season ticket spoils will have been paid out and the turnstile ticket sales wont cover the bills. So I dont think that at this moment we are in a significantly worse position than most other clubs, other than we lack a sugar daddy.
And the factors leading to what you call overspending have been discussed ad nauseam here, hence the reaction to your simplistic statements. is it a truism or a trite-ism to say that cash inflows and outflows should match. Whichever, the devil is in the detail.
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| Quote: Bulliac "Is this the right point mention that this team, which we are apparently overpaying, and is giving us such a tremendous unfair advantage over everyone else, was tipped to finish bottom of the league by at least one pundit (I wont say 'expert') on Sky? '"
You would have finished bottom. You were just lucky to go bankrupt & generate some team spirit.
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| Quote: tigertot "You would have finished bottom. You were just lucky to go bankrupt & generate some team spirit.'"
Shoulda, woulda, coulda
To be fair we've stuck around the same area in the league all season - though with a six point deduction, without which we would have been two or three spots higher.
Did the deduction/situation lead to a greater esprit de corps or did we just get our injuries early and gradually regain troops as we've gone on? Who can tell?
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| There seems to be some bitterness from fax\wakey\cas fans on here. Made me chuckle.
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| If I was a fine, I'd be bitter too. All they ever do is get imposed on people, who always just whinge and moan about it. Not easy being a fine.
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| Kyle Briggs has signed a permanent deal at Fev.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "If I was a fine, I'd be bitter too. All they ever do is get imposed on people, who always just whinge and moan about it. Not easy being a fine.'"
Edited my post dam fingers
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| Quote: hoppy "There seems to be some bitterness from fax\wakey\cas fans on here. Made me chuckle.'"
I'm a fine & so is my wife.
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