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12 pages so far? About this plodder? Really??? icon_eek.gif

The way I see it that Sheffield have got a very average player, we have a very average player off the wage bill and if Sheffield are proven to have acted improperly then we will no doubt be in for more £££££'s than we could ever have got for him.

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Can't say I blame him. Bad timing but then he's been on the receiving end of some of that this season. It's a short career, he needs to put his family 1st

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Last Monday or Tuesday there were 2 posts on the T&A forum re Bulls players fighting in Bradford, one arrested and some players not turning up for training the day after. The posts were quickly removed, were they a wind up or has anybody heard anything? If true it could be related to the Koppy story.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Does that mean that OK has paid all the debts or have the newco just pulled a legal fast one and not paid the creditors ?'"

Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them. d040.gif

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Enlighten us to who it was then? And yes when you were RELEGATED. We have not been. There is a huge difference.'"


If Koppy was contractually able to do it there is no difference at all, apart from one meaningless game. You think honourable Bradford waited until the season was over before talking to Cas's best players?

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Quote: ifallwerelikemumby "Last Monday or Tuesday there were 2 posts on the T&A forum re Bulls players fighting in Bradford, one arrested and some players not turning up for training the day after. The posts were quickly removed, were they a wind up or has anybody heard anything? If true it could be related to the Koppy story.'"


Sounds like a wind up to me.

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Quote: ifallwerelikemumby "Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them.
Why should he get all the player contracts, he had nothing to do with them. icon_twisted.gif

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Quote: ifallwerelikemumby "Why should he pay the debts? He had nothing to do with them.

I would imagine that the cheerleaders, and the caterers and the printers and everyone else owed money might like to think that The BRADFORD BULLS as an entity might like to get some of their money back.

alternatively when Bradford try to sign some contracts for services next season they might be told give us the money up front or FO.

It also makea mockery of the RFL that they bailed Bradford out and left them with their assets and did nothing for the creditors.

If what you are saying is right i could see the Bulls and the RFL being tied up in legal issues for years.

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The way the system is seems to play into the hands of players with longer term contracts. They secure their future by signing a long contract but if something like this happens they put themselves on the market to see who bites. If the club is saved then they win as their contract is passed over and they were happy with it when they signed it.

However, if they hit upon a club who offers them more money they just bide their time and refuse to be under contract to the new owners when offered. If no one offers them a better contract they just realise they're on a good thing where they are and stay. It's win win for them unless the club goes under.

I feel sorry for the out-of-contract players who have expected a new contract then a short sentence in a newspaper quoted from their coach hints the whole lot of out-of-contract players are on their way out. They're suddenly trying to find new clubs, new careers etc.

As for Kopczak he's hardly set the world on fire this season anyway. Good luck to him in his new club!

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Quote: Durham Giant "Does that mean that OK has paid all the debts or have the newco just pulled a legal fast one and not paid the creditors ?'"


What legal fast one is that? Do enlighten us?

Be aware in your reply that some of us on here are clearly far better acquainted with the insolvency legislation than you seem to be, so we await your response with interest.

I would also suggest in your response you indicate why your statement does not constitute a libel on Mr Khan and/or his company.

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Well moving away from the Giants bashing... which i think it is too early to do due to the little information we have been given but thats just my opinion!

Hopefully Koppie getting his letter on the 3rd of Sept saying his contract was TUPEd across to the new company as of the 31st Aug means he is the only one to serve notice against it and make leave!

Hopefully the majority of the other contracted players have agreed and we can get some OOC signed up now and concentrate on rugby league next season instead! icon_biggrin.gif

Wow more threads on matches than finances! I have a dream.... icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: hullbg "Why should he get all the player contracts, he had nothing to do with them. Thats rich coming from a club who had to see another go under so they could survive-- Gateshull

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Quote: ifallwerelikemumby "Thats rich coming from a club who had to see another go under so they could survive-- Gateshull'"



you really have no clue what happened between fc and gateshead do you?

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Quote: Gi4nts "Then surely Kopczak is a free agent as are all the other Bulls players unless they have signed contracts with the new debt free company?'"


It's all been explained many times over, but you are plainly far too thick to have a clue what it all means. You could start by googling TUPE but in a nutshell when taking over a business the new owner takes on all the existing contracts as is and has no choice in the matter. That help, idiot? '"
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Quote: number 6 "you really have no clue what happened between fc and gateshead do you?'"

Only that Gateshead were removed from SL all their playing staff and administrative staff were transfered to what was Hull Sharks and SL funded the new club to the tune of £1.25 million over 2 years to keep the Hull club alive.

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