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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "After the news that Joe Keyes, Elliott Minchella, in particular, have gone, also Milnes and Storton, this is my last ever post on RAB. I am 100% done with this basket case of a club. And probably RL as well. I can't face watching yet another massacred team starting yet again from scratch, and in pitiful circumstances where we will clearly literally offload absolutely ANYONE, without exception, you only have to ask and they are gone. And I can't stand any more of it.

I also have serious doubts if we won't slump into the admin mire yet again, but frankly I no longer care. The club I cared about has died, and should just be closed down and put out of its misery, instead of this death by a thousand cuts.

To say I am gutted would be the understatement of the century, but enough is enough. I have the memories. They will have to do.

Anyone interested in a Premier Club ticket and car parking spot, PM me.

And that's it. Thanks for the conversations guys, it has been good.

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Such a shame, but totally understandable. I suspect a lot of us are on a similar path, its just a question of how far along. My Grandad put his money in to help reform the club back in the 60's, he passed away in 2007, with his beloved rugby club champions of the world. With hindsight now Im really grateful that was how his journey with the club ended. My dad wont be able to get to dewsbury every other week and I will watch from a distance what transpires over the winter, but as Ive said before this offseason could be it for me too. Its sad that generations of support might be coming to an end, I'll make a call closer to next season, but I completely understand your point of view FA. Its been good reading your posts on here, you'll be missed. ta ra lad.

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Sorry to see you go FA, enjoyed reading your posts over the years. Today is indeed a dark day.

Bought a season ticket already so will be going next season but it’s another tough period to be a Bulls supporter that’s for sure.

I’m clinging on to the fact that if anyone can get a hard working solid team together on a budget and make them competitive in the championship it is John Kear.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "After the news that Joe Keyes, Elliott Minchella, in particular, have gone, also Milnes and Storton, this is my last ever post on RAB. I am 100% done with this basket case of a club. And probably RL as well. I can't face watching yet another massacred team starting yet again from scratch, and in pitiful circumstances where we will clearly literally offload absolutely ANYONE, without exception, you only have to ask and they are gone. And I can't stand any more of it.

I also have serious doubts if we won't slump into the admin mire yet again, but frankly I no longer care. The club I cared about has died, and should just be closed down and put out of its misery, instead of this death by a thousand cuts.

To say I am gutted would be the understatement of the century, but enough is enough. I have the memories. They will have to do.

Anyone interested in a Premier Club ticket and car parking spot, PM me.

And that's it. Thanks for the conversations guys, it has been good.

You have reached the position I was at during league 1. The Bulls died for me 2 years ago and guess what? The latest debacle doesn’t bother me one iota. For 47 years 4 of us went home and away bought the shirts and generally had a good time. We were there when Wigan stuffed us. I went to Wembley with the my team the u19’s Northern colts and saw Kel Earl make a d@ck of himself but where we are now is not the Bradford I know that club has gone.
Believe me FA you will be amazed how quickly you get out of the habit...
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Aye I think it's becoming pretty obvious that some of the longest standing fans who've put a lot of time, effort and money into the club over a lot of years have just had enough now.

I've been out for the last 2 years, and the idea that Chalmers may be going and a new regime taking over peaked my interest a little. Not loads as I've been burned too many times in the last 10+ years, but just a little. But I've yet to see anything that is holding me and so far everything I've seen just tells me to stay out.

One of the strangest things I've found myself contemplating is my upcoming family. I have a son on the way in the new year. If you'd have asked me 10 years ago if I'd be taking him to the Bulls, I would have laughed at you as a total no brainer. Now I find myself thinking I don't want to put him through this crap when he's too young to understand why it's all going tits up, and I think I'd rather, when he's old enough, that he go with his mum to Headingley. Which, going back those 10 years, is something I'd have slapped myself for even suggesting back then.

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Quote: Molsk111 "Surely anyone who has purchased a season ticket or a car park ticket should be entitled to there money back, it’s a bit like a miss sold pension if you excuse the pun,anyone who bought there tickets prior to this shambles should get their money back'"

Doubt it.

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Quote: DILLIGAF "
One of the strangest things I've found myself contemplating is my upcoming family. I have a son on the way in the new year. If you'd have asked me 10 years ago if I'd be taking him to the Bulls, I would have laughed at you as a total no brainer. Now I find myself thinking I don't want to put him through this crap when he's too young to understand why it's all going tits up, and I think I'd rather, when he's old enough, that he go with his mum to Headingley. Which, going back those 10 years, is something I'd have slapped myself for even suggesting back then.'"


Things really are rock bottom then when you'd rather send your unborn child to Headingley.
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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "After the news that Joe Keyes, Elliott Minchella, in particular, have gone, also Milnes and Storton, this is my last ever post on RAB. I am 100% done with this basket case of a club. And probably RL as well. I can't face watching yet another massacred team starting yet again from scratch, and in pitiful circumstances where we will clearly literally offload absolutely ANYONE, without exception, you only have to ask and they are gone. And I can't stand any more of it.

I also have serious doubts if we won't slump into the admin mire yet again, but frankly I no longer care. The club I cared about has died, and should just be closed down and put out of its misery, instead of this death by a thousand cuts.

To say I am gutted would be the understatement of the century, but enough is enough. I have the memories. They will have to do.

Anyone interested in a Premier Club ticket and car parking spot, PM me.

And that's it. Thanks for the conversations guys, it has been good.

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I’m not far behind you pal. Take care buddy

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I've had the same feeling s on this latest cluster up. I just can't be bothered to care one way or the other.

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I am struggling with supporting the club this year, i have traveled to every magic/bash and stayed the whole weekend with my sons only to watch the team win one match.
we have brought a shirt nearly every year when they have been replaced, i have brought season tickets nearly every year, however, this debacle is probably one joke too far for me. I am sick of hearing "stick with us, the fans need to continue to support the club".
We must be the laughing stock of every club in RL and the source for good cheap players when things like this happen.
Maybe its time to turn the light out

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This time does feel worse that previously. But we haven't shafted our creditors or been hit with a 12 point deduction this time.
I think it's because I started to believe in the 3yr plan put out by JK - promotion, consolidation and then challenge. We did the first 2 and I'm sure the players believed as well. Then about 4months ago the rumours started to surface and we all recognised the spiral and here we are.
In the end I support the team. Players come & go. For various reasons. Some hurt more than others, but the team remains.

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The trouble is, there hasn't been anything said by the new owners that is any different to the last 4.

They want the fans to buy in, but don't give them anything to buy in to.

I've seen it quoted around that we've sold 1200 season tickets. If that's true then I doubt many will be surprised if our average gate next year is around 1300 mark because unless there's some serious recruitment, which we can't afford, you're not going to get fans putting their hands in their pockets to buy season tickets

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Quote: roofaldo2 "The trouble is, there hasn't been anything said by the new owners that is any different to the last 4.

They want the fans to buy in, but don't give them anything to buy in to.

I've seen it quoted around that we've sold 1200 season tickets. If that's true then I doubt many will be surprised if our average gate next year is around 1300 mark because unless there's some serious recruitment, which we can't afford, you're not going to get fans putting their hands in their pockets to buy season tickets'"

Unless something changes drastically, I won’t be getting one.

I’ll probably pay on the gate but I suppose it’s much easier to be put off going by poor performances, off field stuff and the weather if you haven’t paid up front.

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Quote: roofaldo2 "The trouble is, there hasn't been anything said by the new owners that is any different to the last 4.

They want the fans to buy in, but don't give them anything to buy in to.

I've seen it quoted around that we've sold 1200 season tickets. If that's true then I doubt many will be surprised if our average gate next year is around 1300 mark because unless there's some serious recruitment, which we can't afford, you're not going to get fans putting their hands in their pockets to buy season tickets'"


Why can we not afford serious recruitment? Or at least define serious recruitment?
That £150k will pay wages & creditors who don't want to go on a repayment plan. Everyone else will probably be paid off over the next year. So, say £360k debt left - over 12 months is an extra £30k per month debt payment.
Selling those players gives us time & makes the debt manageable.
Now down to JK to build a team. Which he can do, just he wasn't expecting to have to 6months ago.
From what Sawyer was saying, our budget is less than last years but still more than Dewsbury, Batley etc. So if we've the 7th/8th best budget in the division, I'm kind of hoping we could finish 7th/8th.

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Quote: Highlander "This time does feel worse that previously. But we haven't shafted our creditors '"

Wrong mate.

We have substantial creditors in our throng, and the consort's current proposal is to royally shaft them.

Conversely two (yet unnamed) major creditors are allegedly already being treated favourably and/or exclusively in preference to others. Wonder why? icon_hug.gif

Here come the WUP's ?

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Quote: nestegg "Wrong mate.

We have substantial creditors in our throng, and the consort's current proposal is to royally shaft them.

Conversely two (yet unnamed) major creditors are allegedly already being treated favourably and/or exclusively in preference to others. Wonder why?
Is this speculation an extension of what you promised was coming in the next 6-8 weeks? I'll look forward to that not coming true, and look forward to you backtracking for the umpteenth time.

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