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OK I'll be the one to bite...

Will Chisholm play? icon_confused.gif And, if so, for which team? k020.gif

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Quote: Mirfieldbull "Is this game at Wakefield, are they based there all season?'"


Yeah they're playing at Belle Vue all season.

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Quote: HamsterChops "If the Widnes thing turns out to be true, it would be nice to have Jay Chapelhow & Danny Craven. Chapelhow has been playing ok in a poor side from all accounts, but didn't play last week with the likes of O'Carroll and a couple of others back. Danny Craven also isn't playing now they have Mellor & Gilmore fit again, and he would be an improvement in the halves than sticking with Pryce & Thomas.

Perhaps Nas fancies coming back to the Bulls on dual reg too? He's not played much for them.


If we don't have any recruits coming in though, we may as well give Sheffield the two points now.'"

Craven is out injured for a number of weeks and Manuokafoa is back in Oz on compasionate leave. They are probably the weakest squad in SL and have a boat load of injuries, its a strange club to dual reg with.

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Quote: Sacred Cow "Craven is out injured for a number of weeks and Manuokafoa is back in Oz on compasionate leave. They are probably the weakest squad in SL and have a boat load of injuries, its a strange club to dual reg with.'"


Yep it does seem odd.
But I suppose beggars cant be choosers

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Quote: Bullseye "Well I was in two minds about going to Sheffield. Unless we have half the Widnes side in the squad I’ll be giving it a miss. It’s a crucial game and we’re looking like being stuffed. That really doesn’t reflect well on the owners. We surely knew things would be tough around Easter and we seem to have done nothing to make it easier.'"


Same here. Getting a bit fed up dipping my hand in my pocket to see our young lads get stuffed

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It is getting to be a joke now and the fans and staff alike are baring the brunt of it.What we are enduring, following on the heels of the long drawn out pre-season debacle, is more akin to a poorly run amateur set up, rather than a professional one. Even if no fault of the Owners, the lack of understanding of the situation here at the Bulls by themselves and RL headquarters is nothing short of criminal. Despite what may be extenuating circumstances, the relevance of the fanbase should never be underestimated and it is paramount that they are clearly kept in the picture to allay concern. Belatedly, the MD has agreed to meet any supporter groups, along with Mr C to relate the Club's existing position. Of course we are grateful to have a Club to support, of course we know Rome wasn't built in a day, but equally we didn't expect to be thrown to the lions. Stop taking us for granted and respect the supporters through dialogue, the least you could do in the present and ongoing situation.

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Quote: PHILISAN "It is getting to be a joke now and the fans and staff alike are baring the brunt of it.What we are enduring, following on the heels of the long drawn out pre-season debacle, is more akin to a poorly run amateur set up, rather than a professional one. Even if no fault of the Owners, the lack of understanding of the situation here at the Bulls by themselves and RL headquarters is nothing short of criminal. Despite what may be extenuating circumstances, the relevance of the fanbase should never be underestimated and it is paramount that they are clearly kept in the picture to allay concern. Belatedly, the MD has agreed to meet any supporter groups, along with Mr C to relate the Club's existing position. Of course we are grateful to have a Club to support, of course we know Rome wasn't built in a day, but equally we didn't expect to be thrown to the lions. Stop taking us for granted and respect the supporters through dialogue, the least you could do in the present and ongoing situation.'"


The idea of meeting with supporters groups is just stupidity. I for one don't want to be associated with any of the groups from "Bulls Banter" or "Bullieve" to the BBSG (or whatever they're called) that seem to think they're some sort of official voice of the fans. All meaning well, but generally a bit disorganised and self appointed. Similarly, I don't think it's Bullbuilder's place to be doing things like that, as they are not here to be the voice of fans, they have their own purposes that they do well sticking to.

If they really wanted to answer supporter questions, they could very easily do a website Q & A. Send in your questions beforehand, they get time to think about their answer in a measured way (and preferably spell check their typed response), then they post all sensible questions on the website in an article.

It's not difficult to do, they're not put on the spot, and they can weed out all the stupid questions.

Not difficult but I don't expect it to happen.

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Would rather they hold a fans forum in person. Less easy to wriggle out of answering questions or hide behind management-speak.

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Quote: Bullseye "Would rather they hold a fans forum in person. Less easy to wriggle out of answering questions or hide behind management-speak.'"


I think I'd rather that too, but if they want a middle ground where they answer questions but want some time to think about it, a website Q & A would fit that. They don't appear to me to want to be in a position where they can be caught off guard, which may be why we hear so bloody little.

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I don't expect a resolution to the Chizzy signing this week. There's no way Sheffield will want him playing against them this Sunday. Expect them to string it out for another week.

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At first i wasn't too bothered about a fans forum. We had them with Khan & Green remember? Look how well that turned out. In fact the Green forums were everything i wanted as a fan. Direction, the club to be run as a business. Investment in youth. And the holy grail, he will not put the future of this club in jeopardy by living beyond our means. They were fantatsic well run, well engaged forums. No one came away from those forums thinking we were in unsafe hands again. For me i would rather they just got on with the job as actions speak louder than words and empty promises.

The communication and media part is shameful and totally unprofessional. I would happily run it for free by sending a few tweets out and press releases that are spelled correctly. So i have changed my mind on the forum part with rumours starting to gather pace. Tell us what the plan is for scenario A we survive and scenario B we go down. Are the finances that tight we may have to go PT anyway. If so tell us. I don't want a constant update of why we've missed out on Ryan Bailey or why we didn't sign player X. But maybe a bit more clarification of the direction would be nice.


Despite what some say, they have invested in the club. We got £150k central funding, hardly any ticket money coming in. Sponsorship would have been low as it would likely have already been paid at the time Green was in charge. a FT squad, U16s, U19s, cost more than £150k so funding from someones pockets has had to have happened. Signings in Smith, Chisholm, Davies proves they are putting some money in.

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Don't think anyone seriously questions that some money has come in from somewhere. What most question is what LEVEL of funding is available to us from or via our new owners. To me, on the evidence so far, the answer seems to be that we are significantly underfunded to be able to fulfil the undoubted potential that our coaching setup (for which I give the owners due credit) have near-miraculously got up to a level I wouldn't have expected.

In short, and without explanation I can only guess same as anyone else, the indications to me are that we've done very well to get to where we were a few weeks ago, but appear now to be totally potless, the main danger signs including the lamentable apparent failure to address the pack/experience problem; the rumours now rife and uncontradicted of part-time contracts etc.

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Quote: Mirfieldbull "Is this game at Wakefield, are they based there all season?'"
Yes it is, I've been asked to help run the north stand bar at the back of the stand where we put on hand pulled real ale on at the Wakey games and goes down a treat, there will also be other refreshments icon_cheers.gif

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Quote: snowie "Yes it is, I've been asked to help run the north stand bar at the back of the stand where we put on hand pulled real ale on at the Wakey games and goes down a treat, there will also be other refreshments
That sounds rather appealing to me. Which is the North stand in relation to the Benidorm flats please?

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Quote: HamsterChops "That sounds rather appealing to me. Which is the North stand in relation to the Benidorm flats please?'"
opposite end under cover and better views

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