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| I've not read the article, but should imagine the Board of Directors of any Rugby League club would give their eye teeth to have either the stadium, the crowds, or sponsor's list that Leicester Tigers attract to their rlwelford roadrl ground
Once again, Gledhill is living proof that Maggie Thatcher's Education policy was a tad lacking.
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| I dislike yawnion almost as much as I dislike Thatcher. But Kitson's yearning for some golden age is bollox. I have watched yawnion, occasionally, for 40 years. England yawnion has never, ever, been exciting. They have the occasional talented individual but their opportunities to run with the ball are virtually nil. Thank christ, I'd hate to think of the coverage it would get if it was ever remotely entertaining. Yawnion = the emperor's new clothes.
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| Hi Clearwing.
sorry to be pedantic butWembley'"
Quote: jdynamo "Harlequins - Leicester in 2008?'"
The hq - tigs game was at twickenham, not Wembley.
I think they managed a virtual sell out of the hq boxing day game this year, and shows what can be done for 'event' when clubs market and price effectively. Whats the capacity at the Stoop again?
Quote: jdynamo "I think Saracens have got close a few times too although it's reputedly cost their backer plenty.'" Cost em lots and even saracens fans dont believe the reported Wembley figures. Thier attendence at Vicarage road averages between 7 - 8K mark.
Not bad, but a latent support of 50k+? Its what the saracens comercial dept will tell potential sponsors tho, they have the figures to prove it..
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| 70 odd thousand watching Quins/London Irish for a league game only 2 weeks ago at Twickenham
Quins RU sell out there league games at home
Ive just been to Belfast and the Ulster v Biarritz game was as sell out yesterday
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| A couple of seasons ago one of the broadsheets compared crowds between the two Rugby codes and the average was very close. Whilst the top Guiness Premiership games had bigger crowds than the top Engage games, the rest of the Union crowds were lower than the equivalent League ones. But to put it into context, the aggregate crowd for either code didn't match the top Premiership football game that weekend.
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| Quote: joedynamo "
Sorry it was 38k +.
Wembley 26th 2010. Saracens vs Wasps
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| Quote: wire - quin "70 odd thousand watching Quins/London Irish for a league game only 2 weeks ago at Twickenham'"
Think they did the same last year as well, excellent marketing and pricing which should be applauded and adapted by RL clubs. There's lots we can learn from other sports. Not running our own down for one.
Quote: wire - quin "Quins RU sell out there league games at home'"
The official attendences for their games against Exeter, Leeds, Sale, Newcastle and Northampton suggest the Stoop was less then full.
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| Hi Dixie.
Quote: Dixie "Sorry it was 38k +.'"
If its true then that would a good attendence, however even the sorries fans doubt the Wembley att figures and any att under 50k means the game has run at a loss.
The figures for the saracens last two home games against hq tell the tale:
2009 @ Wembley 47k
2010@ Vicarage road 6k.
To lose 10'000 fans in a year would be unfortunate but 41'000?
Theres lots we can learn from union, the most important of which is how to sell our sport.
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| Quote: joedynamo "Hi Clearwing.
sorry to be pedantic but
Not pedantic in the slightest - a mistake on my part.
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| The game between Quins and London Irish at the main Twickenham stadium just after Christmas was 75,112. There was a huge advertising campaign because the pre-match & half-time entertainment was provided by the X Factor finalists. This gave a major boost to the crowd, and Radio Five's Rachel Burden claimed it was the most entertaining part of the day.
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| If the 4 billion who watch the union world cup (honest, they love it in China, India and the States) all donate 0.5p, they can wipe out that loss.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "If the 4 billion who watch the union world cup (honest, they love it in China, India and the States) all donate 0.5p, they can wipe out that loss.'"
Nah, don't be daft!
All they'd need to do would be to sign up all of HKR's away support, and job sorted. Simples!
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| Heya clearwing, no worries bud. The sorries@wembley figures have been discussed, debunked and dismissed on another forum. Something that came out of the discussion were comments made by the c.e.o's of two union clubs that the [iofficial[/i att figures are often higher then the [iactual[/i att..by upto 25% in some instances! Still, it makes the season averages look better, ey.
I think the op is valid because it gives an insight into how clubs and governing bodies of other sports handle some of the issues already faced by RL. For example promotion to the union premership is no longer automatic, but based partly on an off field audit, similar to the system used in RL as a precursor to franchising.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "If the 4 billion who watch the union world cup (honest, they love it in China, India and the States) all donate 0.5p, they can wipe out that loss.'"
The 2011 ruwc viewing figures have already been announced as 4.5 billion. They not only wiped out the loss but made a profit
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| Quote: joedynamo "The 2011 ruwc viewing figures have already been announced as 4.5 billion. They not only wiped out the loss but made a profit
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