I will still be disappointed if I hear we didn't offer him another contract, as I believe his work (off the field) deserves a huge amount of credit.

If we attract a top-class coach (who still continues our great youth development) then I won't be as disappointed. If we appoint Lowes, Mcdermott, Jowitt or Calland I will want to cry.

Where is that quote from?

But (may be reading too much into it) - note the word "reassure" as opposed to "assure".

That implies earlier discussions on this subject.

I knew somebody would ask............



The sun, so maybe not too much of the old truth in there.

Why would he fail, why would he jack?
He didn't fail or jack last time and there's nobody in SL that has achieved what Noble has.

As for buying a team of seasoned pros isnt that what Macca has done from 1 to 17?

Bloody Parker then.

Does read like its a total done deal, doesn't it?

I was PMd by someone usually in the know a week or two ago indicating he was defo going.

I suspect the club will be in for an Aussie if at all possible.

He was failing and last time I looked he jacked it for the monies of Wigan.

When Noble achieves success on an extremely tight budget, with scope for few overseas players and success built on home-grown youngsters coming through, then I will agree with you. He hasn't done so yet in his career. His skill set is extensive, but would not work for a club now in Bulls' position IMO.

Well last time I looked we were Super League champions at the time he was forced out, that doesn't look like failing to me.

Tight budget or not, the man achieved success and was good at getting the best out of squads year upon year. And don't try and fob me off with the no home grown youngsters lark that so many are brainwashed into believing either because you know full well that Nobbys squads were heavily laden up with homegrown youngsters just as much as Steve Maccas are.

We've had this discussion many times Michael, and its by no means certain who has been brainwashed.

Nobby's squads here were full of expensive antipodeans - we were forever getting slated for that. And other than the excellent Langley where are the long-term home-grown products?

You can ignore the financial realities all you want, but financial realities are totally central to the Bulls' situation. Simple fact - provable fact - is that Bulls were spending far more than their means to keep the squad they did. The audited accounts don't lie. What happened when Nobby realised that the funding would have to be cut significantly if the club was to survive? The players knew.

Nobby brought us massive success. That is something no-one should ever forget or seek to decry IMO. Equally, that success was built on a set of circumstances which no longer apply. IMO he will do well this year with Crusaders, and they will likely beat us in at least one of the games. He's got a load of antipodeans and seasoned professionals to play with. At Wigan, people were playing hell with him for having a team of antipodeans. But, in the end, the Wigan club decided someone else could do better - and they have been proved right.

Adey we're never going to agree. I'm a Nobby fan, I don't rate Macca. You rate Macca and not Nobby. Lets leave it at that.

Hey Michael...I was just about to post pretty well the same! Although I'd add that I rate Nobby for what he did for us at the time in the situation then prevailing, and whilst I rate Macca very highly for what he has managed to do for the club within the resources available, I will happily concede that in pure coaching terms there may be more effective (if not necessarily affordable) options available

One of these days you and I are going to have to have a beer. Might be an interesting chat!

Cool mate. That'd be good.

It would. Soon.

See they are still as touchy as ever on the Pussycats forum? You very diplomatically pointed out another of their inconvenient truths, and lo and behold raw nerve touched and disproportionate reaction, eh? They are good at giving but pretty cräp at taking.

I recall with some clarity that Noble was not pushed. He had a contract that he could have enforced if he wished. His wish was to move to another club under a better contract and the Bulls received a transfer fee for releasing him from their contract.

Connor has been an excellent commentator on the Bull's games and his regular interviews with players have kept the club's press at a high level. He has never been a sensationalist or unreasonable speculative.
I agree with Adey that the T&A article is thought provoking on several levels.
It does read overall as a McNamara CV including insights to information that might have been provided by sources close to Steve. Details of the salary cap expenditure, Macca's "clear and long term plan", and the "reality is murkier" elements of his tenure.
Its much like the sort of thing an agent would put out prior to contract talks, and maybe this is what its all about. Macca's 4 year contract (almost certainly at pretty low money from his appointment) is coming to an end and it would not be surprising if he is looking for a significant increase over the term of the next contract.
Whether he would be worth it is for conjecture by the fans and decision by the board.
Connor alluding to the Bulls not trying hard enough to keep him presuposes that they want to keep him.
Have the rumours of him going to Oz been deliberately fabricated, and is the England job just another lever?

Whatever, contract talks are clearly ongoing and this is significant as it would sugest that Macca wants to stay and the club want him to stay. Perhaps only their valuations differ.

Yah, HKR. I usually go in Cue Gardens before or can get one in the ground whatever.

Oh yeah I know, they are a right set of twonks. 'You'll feel the force of the moderation process and all that'. They are a set of idiots and like you say they can give it out but can't take it. Huddersfield next.

Talk nearer the time?

And "You'll feel the force of the moderation process" - what a total conceited wassock of a comment, eh?