3104 according to T& A

I can't really add much to what's already been said. I think it's possibly the worst defensive display i've seen from us under Kear. It reminded me of the sort of games we seemed to have in 2015/16 when we seemed to concede soft tries every week and then rely and rely on our attack to try and get us out of jail.

From the stand he 'Swished' the flag and pointed to the line where he ruled the player to be out and he never joined the ref in goal. He signalled it but the ref ignored.

From my view on the terrace and subsequently on the highlights I’d say all the incidents are pretty inconclusive really and the ref was nearer on all occasions.

What is clear is the defensive “efforts” at time were unacceptable. The try in the second half where the Swinton player burst through Magrin and Peltier was awful. There were some equally bad misses from Garside and Minchella that led to tries. They’re all capable of much better than that as we know which makes it disappointing. The left side defence was exploited at times with Kibula running at Keyes and Swinton creating space and an extra man. Oakes and Garside looked in trouble on a few occasions and we leaked tries there whenever Swinton got themselves organised.

The Liney's stance when the try was scored was a clear indication to the ref that there was an offence. i.e he stood on the touch line 2 metres from the corner flag. It used to be the case that linesman should not wave their flags like a demented semaphore exponent.

That's what I saw too. If the touchie has no problem with the score then he runs to the in goal corner ; he didn't, he held his ground at the corner flag; therefore he appeared to be overruled. Strange decision from the ref for what is really, without video, the touchie's call.

Maybe the officials go on the idea that a try should be given the benefit on the doubt, unless it's clearly out? Maybe the touchie said " I thought he might have been in touch but I'm not totally sure", so the ref just gave what he thought? I dunno. To be fair at normal speed it must be a right mare to make those instant decisions so I'm not going to bag the young ref ( I think I'm old enough to say that he was just a kid, without it being too insulting) who will learn, given time. Maybe he was correct, though my basic instinct would be to go with your first thought.

If he stood at the corber flag then he is saying that he is not sure, two metres from the corner flag (which is where I thought he stood) means there is an offence.

Jy has posted a picture on twitter of the guy's hand in touch as he dives to ground the ball

I think they should just let it go and move on now tbh.

You going to get refereeing errors that go against you so it’s just part of the game we still gifted them enough scores with our defence. That last try was pathetic.

What I still don’t know is why Webster go sin binned. At the time I couldn’t work it out and having just watched it on you tube he’s tackled and gets head butted as clear as day whilst he’s laid on his back.

I wonder if Jy will be posting pictures of the non exsistent defence for half the tries Swinton scored on Sunday.Please can we just move on now and concentrate on the massive game coming up on Sunday.

Watching that last try, if any of Peltier, Margrin or Pickersgill are dropped none of them can complain. Why on earth did Pick go high. If he goes low he at least slows him down for Jy to tackle him.

Kear has some decisions to make. Does he bring in Brown for Pick? Sadly I think we'll see Grant brought in for Ethan which is a travesty as Ricketts is scoring tries for fun in the reserves.

Well like most rules in RL it seems I cannot keep up! Since when was a raised flag not an indication of a player being in touch?! I find it bizarre that a ref would overrule the touch judge in that position so I would have to assume the touch judge didn’t rule it out with any certainty. The touch judge obviously hangs back initially to in theory get a better view of the touch line.

In any case it was split seconds between the ball being ground and the hand already being in touch so you can hardly blame the officials in real time whilst running the line.

If Ryan is missing Evans will come in on the wing not Grant

OKay this is not particular to being in touch.
If linesmen saw an offence in general play then they were told to hang bacck for a few seconds before again following play. The ref should see that the liney is well behind play and then consult with him about the offence. The idea was that the crowd would not see linesmen flagging and then being overruled by the ref thus giving the impression they were all of one mind. THis may have gone out of the window now everyone seems miked up.