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Quote: Stul "I wouldn't have O'Loughlin anywhere near the Bradford team. He is slow, lacks creativity and is a penalty machine.

Good individual defender, but we have plenty of those.

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Quote: mystic eddie "In popular worldwide sports like football and dare I say it, Rugby Union, then fair enough, but in Rugby League that is a nonsense suggestion. Not enough people play it in order for there to be so many "world class" players.'"



Then that surely all depends on your definition of World Class. If only 1 person played the game then he would, by definition, be World Class as he'd be the best (and worst! icon_wink.gif ) playing the sport. Fewer players shouldn't impact on your definition of World Class. However, having had this debate on the Leeds board re: Sinfield, I'm in total agreement that it's a term bandied about far too often and far too easily.

I suggested the 'Wally Lewis' test (as I called it) as a good marker of true world class. Few people, if any, would argue that Lewis wasn't world class. Maybe only the players who engender this 'universal acclaim' should be considered worthy of the term. It's as good a system as any! icon_wink.gif

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IMO

World Class - A Player who makes a consistent impact at the highest level of the sport.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Us fans may be a little over confidante, but there's no way the players will be. Anybody who's ever heard Shaun Wane or Michael McGuire speak will know that this Wigan side won't underestimate any opposition while their in control.'"


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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Us fans may be a little over confidante, but there's no way the players will be. Anybody who's ever heard John Kear speak will know that this Wakefield side won't underestimate any opposition while he's in control.'"


Same noises if you play your best Rugby League Football in February and March you won't make the Grand Final. Leeds and Saints are only four and two points respectively behind you and are winning games without setting the world alight.

It's all about timing you can peak too soon. Or so my ex. wife tells me.

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Quote: Odemwingie "For the poster saying we will be the hull and wakey of previous seasons, I disagree. We are so much fitter than those teams were and are completely dominating games. They dropped down due to injuries but I believe we have one of the deepest squads in the league.'"


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Quote: Odemwingie "For the poster saying we will be like previous seasons, I disagree. We are so much fitter than those teams were and are completely dominating games. They dropped down due to injuries but I believe we have one of the deepest squads in the league.'"


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Quote: Phuzzy "
Fewer players shouldn't impact on your definition of World Class. '"


I never had a definition of World Class, I merely stated that 10 players from each position being described as World Class is a nonsense when there are only two recognised leagues in the world.

However, for the record, Sean O Loughlin is [inot[/i my definition of World Class.

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Wigan are not Melbourne Storm either. They've played in the last four NRL Grand Finals and have won two. Wigan haven't been in a Grand Final since 2003 and haven't won one since 1998.

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Quote: Odemwingie "Besides the rest of the tosh on this thread, that really stands out as a stupid comment.'"


What an ironic statement.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Us fans may be a little over confidante, but there's no way the players will be. Anybody who's ever heard Shaun Wane or Michael McGuire speak will know that this Wigan side won't underestimate any opposition while their in control.'"


icon_lol.gif You really need to rein yourselves. Your wonder coaches have presided over 4 wins and that's it. A good start to the season but that's it. I'd wait until the end of the season before I start knocking one out over them if I were you.

I've heard of Shaun Wane, he was a distinctly average front rower who Monie dumped when it was apparent he wasn't up to standard. Since packing up playing he's become a coach but has little pedigree at the top level other than four wins as an assistant to a bloke who comes from a club who are world leaders in RL.

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It seems to be me that some of the Wiganers on this thread have a very blurred line over what is a fact and what is an opinion.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



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Same noises if you play your best Rugby League Football in February and March you won't make the Grand Final. Leeds and Saints are only four and six points respectively behind you and are winning games without setting the world alight.

It's all about timing you can peak too soon. Or so my ex. wife tells me.'"


Wrong. You obviously havn't seen enough of how we have been playing.

As for saying Langley is better than Lockers, I seriously can't believe that. Lockers would have played in the 4 nations last year had he not got injured.

Lockers is also our longest serving player! Last season Lockers was miles better than Langley.

Currently Lockers is the better player. Whats the point in saying 'I bet he will have more this and more that' because right now he doesn't.

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Quote: DILLIGAF "It seems to be me that some of the Wiganers on this thread have a very blurred line over what is a fact and what is an opinion.'"


Quite. And just for the record I have predicted a Wigan win in my works tipping comp for this Friday, as they are the team on form and looking good. [iBut [/iit might well be closer than some of our Wigan friends on this thread and elsewhere think. And if the unthinkable happens, and the stars and planets align and we actualy sneak a clearly unwarranted win....well, this thread might be a good source of quotes for the weekend. icon_biggrin.gif

Looking forward to a good game and giving Deacs a great reception.

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Quote: Odemwingie "Wrong. You obviously havn't seen enough of how we have been playing.'"


Read the post again.
The poster was talking about Leeds & Saints, not you.

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Quote: Odemwingie " Last season Lockers was miles better than Langley.

Currently Lockers is the better player. '"


In your opinion.

Or is your opinion gospel? Or not have to be supported by hard facts? Heaven forbid...

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Quote: DILLIGAF "It seems to be me that some of the Wiganers on this thread have a very blurred line over what is a fact and what is an opinion.'"


Well they have won their 4 opening games so that means they're the best team in the universe ever since those great Wigan teams of the early 90s.

I'm looking forward to seeing 10,000 Wigan fans on Friday all in their Wigan jerseys with "Norweb" on the front and sporting those lovely tasteful cherry and white ski jackets that were all the rage in the late 80s.

We should feel privileged to see WORLD CLASS talents like Cameron Phelps and Amos Roberts icon_lol.gif

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