FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Chalmers and Lowe the conspiracy |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4526 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13619.gif :13619.gif |
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Living within your means is one of those fine-sounding phrases that don't always quite fit the bill. It's abut like eating up your greens, you know you should, but what you want is the ability to feast on steak, Whitby fish n chips, or giant stuffed crust pepperoni pizzas.
What I want is not to live beyond our means, but to have owners who possess substantial and liquid means, plenty of which they are happy to spend on our living.
The sad truth is that even if we were getting 10k crowds, that doesn't let you compete with teams owned by ambitious and relatively minted owners. That's how it is. Sure, for now, I'll settle for stability - it's nice to go a few months with no money panic news -but I hope we aren't going to be an also- ran with no ambition. And ambition costs. Finally, in the medium term, we'll never keep any of the great young prospects we keep turning out. Losing all of them has for me been probably the most painful part of recent years.'"
To carry on your analogy we are having to rely on food banks.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 31956 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
438_1551258406.jpg "If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_438.jpg |
Moderator
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Living within your means is one of those fine-sounding phrases that don't always quite fit the bill. It's abut like eating up your greens, you know you should, but what you want is the ability to feast on steak, Whitby fish n chips, or giant stuffed crust pepperoni pizzas.
What I want is not to live beyond our means, but to have owners who possess substantial and liquid means, plenty of which they are happy to spend on our living.
The sad truth is that even if we were getting 10k crowds, that doesn't let you compete with teams owned by ambitious and relatively minted owners. That's how it is. Sure, for now, I'll settle for stability - it's nice to go a few months with no money panic news -but I hope we aren't going to be an also- ran with no ambition. And ambition costs. Finally, in the medium term, we'll never keep any of the great young prospects we keep turning out. Losing all of them has for me been probably the most painful part of recent years.'"
I'm prepared to cut them some slack if we manage to stay up but I'd hope it would then lead to us showing some intent to do better next year. Going down would be a disaster.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
973_1515165968.gif Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif |
|
| Quote: Bullseye "I'm prepared to cut them some slack if we manage to stay up but I'd hope it would then lead to us showing some intent to do better next year. Going down would be a disaster.'"
me too, but that's the thing; spending to push for promotion offers absolutely no guarantees, and not even a likelihood. It might be a long time before there's another Leigh and who knows what crackpot scheme will be next. Whereas the spending that could have reasonably comfortably assured our survival would have been very considerably less. So much less, I don't understand why anyone would gamble our chances on hoping we scrape by by a couple of points against the next worse team.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1977 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
53798_1538737679.jpeg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53798.jpeg |
|
| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Daniel Smith at Huddersfield is his brother, not Morgan. As a youngster every club in the country was after him, but I believe Lee Crooks played a part in him ending up at Leeds. Has the potential to go as far as he wants in the game.'"
Thanks for that, take it he was a lock lane junior like daniel then? Theres a quality player hiding in daniel for me too
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13747_1541715311.jpg [b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg |
|
| Quote: Bull Mania "According to T&A sounds like loan reinforcements coming next with some season long loans which is good news. Would expect Lilley to be one of the season long loans.'"
I accept beggars can't be choosers, but are these real season long loan deals, or season long but we will have you back tomorrow deals?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9554 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: debaser "I accept beggars can't be choosers, but are these real season long loan deals, or season long but we will have you back tomorrow deals?'"
also what are they classing as season End of year or end of regular season (23 rounds). If latter then we'd be back in trouble for key part of season.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 10969 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2023 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1271.jpg Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
Mark Twain
Build Bridges NOT Walls:1271.jpg |
Moderator
|
| I'd expect season means season; that is until they all pack their bags and go off on their hols.
I understood that season loans didn't have recall option anyway?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9154 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13462.gif :13462.gif |
|
| Quote: Bulliac "I'd expect season means season; that is until they all pack their bags and go off on their hols.
I understood that season loans didn't have recall option anyway?'"
Pretty sure Larroyer has a recall clause despite being on a season long loan deal from Cas.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
69500_1482141774.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_69500.jpg |
|
| Larroyer definitely has a recall clause as Cas were in the press saying they may exercise it over Easter. Thankfully they didn't.
Every deal is down to the clubs really. There aren't a lot of actual rules on what you can or can't agree, except for the month minimum without a recall bit. Season long loans can be with or without recall clauses. I can't really ever blame a club for putting a recall clause in, as at the end of the day he's their player and if they need him back, they should be allowed to use him. If a club opts against putting a recall clause in, that suggests they think the player is surplus to requirements, at least for that season.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15035 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
21910.gif [u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
[/b:b26ka63j][/color:b26ka63j][/size:b26ka63j][/u:b26ka63j]
[size=117:b26ka63j]Michael Jordan[/size:b26ka63j]:21910.gif |
|
| We don't need to spend money on has beens this year surviving isn't an issue.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13747_1541715311.jpg [b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg |
|
| Quote: redeverready "We don't need to spend money on has beens this year surviving isn't an issue.'"
You keep alluding to this. What does it all mean?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 999 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2015 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
74022_1508923680.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74022.jpg |
|
| Quote: redeverready "We don't need to spend money on has beens this year surviving isn't an issue.'"
Have you got curly hair?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15035 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
21910.gif [u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
[/b:b26ka63j][/color:b26ka63j][/size:b26ka63j][/u:b26ka63j]
[size=117:b26ka63j]Michael Jordan[/size:b26ka63j]:21910.gif |
|
| Quote: bowlingboy "Have you got curly hair?'" Eh.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 999 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2015 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
74022_1508923680.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74022.jpg |
|
| We are playing guess who...
I already asked if you wear glasses..
Now have you got curly hair..
We can go through the process of elimination and work out which insider you are..
Fancy it?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15035 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
21910.gif [u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
[/b:b26ka63j][/color:b26ka63j][/size:b26ka63j][/u:b26ka63j]
[size=117:b26ka63j]Michael Jordan[/size:b26ka63j]:21910.gif |
|
| Quote: bowlingboy "We are playing guess who...
I already asked if you wear glasses..
Now have you got curly hair..
We can go through the process of elimination and work out which insider you are..
Fancy it?'"
Don't need to work out who I'am plenty on here know me.
|
|
|
|
|
|