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| Quote: mat "Agreement between OK and whitcut/Moore was before watt and Calvert came on board wasn't it?. Wonder what happens if Moore leaves club too. Does it then become a personal debt owed by whitcut/Moore to OK and no longer an issue for club.'"
That is the clear suggestion. Does Whitcut still own the shares he bought (and hasn't paid for)?
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| Quote: M@islebugs "Omar Khan Vs Andrew Calvert.
This is going to get very nasty and I actually sympathise with both parties. The combined actions in the 12 months prior to administration of the RFL and Lord Peter of Hood have virtually made the club un-rescue-able (sp).'"
Correct.
Some of the ill-judged, badly timed and poorly executed business decisions have played a huge part, in landing us in the perilous mess we currently find ourselves in.
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| The wording looked quite clear to me - OK proceding against individuals not the club? That would seem to suggest relating to the transfer of ownership rather than relating to monies owned by the club? And that there are no grounds for anyone to suggest OK is trying to bring the club down, as I have seen said elsewhere. Given he is owed money by the club - regardless of amount - that would make no sense?
There will always be two sides to any argument. Moore et al must feel very confident of their position, after the very public vilification of OK and Whitcut at the Forum and in the statements released. It was inevitable that the targets would respond.
I fear we could see a public battle for the hearts and minds of the supporters, though - just like we saw between the Hood and Caisley camps in the playpen. And, just like then with some supporters knowing - to a greater or lesser extent - some of the tale, but no-one knowing it all (even now, well after the event). With the supporters - and far more importantly the club players and staff - the largely-impotent ones stuck in the middle. Like last time, ultimately the history books will record more of the truth of it all, although like last time I doubt they will ever record it all.
One thing the history books DO record though, here and now, is that OK did step in and we still have a club because he did. Whether folk like me found him hard to deal with, and his attitude difficult, would never have been relevant had he not been the one to step in. The new board's issue with OK seems to boil down to them alleging OK was out of his depth, and placing his trust in others who let him down. Well-meaning but naive? And they seem to have avoided making any criticism of Gerry Sutcliffe, despite his equally high-profile role in saving the club and its subsequent activities. The targets seem very specific. I have long wondered what - or who - persuaded OK to step in in the first place, and how. I doubt he will be thanking them right now.
I guess this would be a very good time indeed for a wealthy doctor or music promoter or similar to manifest himself.
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| Incidentally, bit hard to file an Annual Return if it is unclear or disputed who owns, and/or has paid for, what shares? Always been clear no way was the delay likely to be down to some oversight. And those (often no friends of the Bulls) who made hay on forums and in the social media about it will not have been wrong, even if the motives of many of them stunk.
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| Quote: Adeybull "The wording looked quite clear to me - OK proceding against individuals not the club? That would seem to suggest relating to the transfer of ownership rather than relating to monies owned by the club? And that there are no grounds for anyone to suggest OK is trying to bring the club down, as I have seen said elsewhere. Given he is owed money by the club - regardless of amount - that would make no sense?
There will always be two sides to any argument. Moore et al must feel very confident of their position, after the very public vilification of OK and Whitcut at the Forum and in the statements released. It was inevitable that the targets would respond.
I fear we could see a public battle for the hearts and minds of the supporters, though - just like we saw between the Hood and Caisley camps in the playpen. And, just like then with some supporters knowing - to a greater or lesser extent - some of the tale, but no-one knowing it all (even now, well after the event). With the supporters - and far more importantly the club players and staff - the largely-impotent ones stuck in the middle. Like last time, ultimately the history books will record more of the truth of it all, although like last time I doubt they will ever record it all.
One thing the history books DO record though, here and now, is that OK did step in and we still have a club because he did. Whether folk like me found him hard to deal with, and his attitude difficult, would never have been relevant had he not been the one to step in. The new board's issue with OK seems to boil down to them alleging OK was out of his depth, and placing his trust in others who let him down. Well-meaning but naive? And they seem to have avoided making any criticism of Gerry Sutcliffe, despite his equally high-profile role in saving the club and its subsequent activities. The targets seem very specific. I have long wondered what - or who - persuaded OK to step in in the first place, and how. I doubt he will be thanking them right now.
I guess this would be a very good time indeed for a wealthy doctor or music promoter or similar to manifest himself.'"
To be honest Adey you have hit a lot of nails on, maybe, a lot of heads. I felt totally confused at the News Omar was doing a statutory on the Bulls when the company of OK Bulls was sold to the two Directors first named. Particularly in light of all the "in with the new(Directors) and out with the old!" reports seemingly already logged at Companies House.
As you said that didn't make any sense when it could only be a personal matter of the purchaser agreement, between the parties involved? But certainly we won't know anything for a fact, unless we had been a fly on the wall at that time.
Good post Adey, feel a bit better reference the actual Club survival, which is still tenuous but less so at this moment. It's real tough being a Bulls fan is it not?
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| Quote: Rarebreed ".. It's real tough being a Bulls fan is it not?'"
Nah, mate. It's tough being a taxi driver in Gaza. Us? We just toddle along, cheer, clap and bitch, and get plenty excuse for a beer and a moan! What's not to like?
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| Time for CC to ride back in
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The more he talked of his honour,the faster we counted our spoons.: |
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Nah, mate. It's tough being a taxi driver in Gaza. Us? We just toddle along, cheer, clap and bitch, and get plenty excuse for a beer and a moan! What's not to like?'"
Yes that's a more accurate description of what tough is!! Apologies to all who really have it tough...Leeds supporters for example???? (that's only a joke folks, before Leeds fans call for me to be brought before the court of Human Rights!)
Honestly though, our game is easy to Love aint it? No matter what team you support!
FA you are spot on, what's not to like!
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Nah, mate. It's tough being a taxi driver in Gaza. Us? We just toddle along, cheer, clap and bitch, and get plenty excuse for a beer and a moan! What's not to like?'"
The beer's crap
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| Quote: madasmcmadammcmad2 "CC has a SAINTLY look when compared to recent BODS.
Bring back CC.
Is that the same CC that deliberately took us into administration in order to stick up 2 fingers to Hood. Be careful what you wish for.
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| Told ya! Been orchestrated since November!!!!
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I came, I saw, I tore the thick b4st4rds limb from limb
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| Credit where it's due
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| See my post on the main current thread...
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