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Franchising was brought in due to the disaster that was P&R, whereby one club after another went bust after losing their SL place, but as is so often the case with new systems it hasn't been a total success. Though I'd suggest that the idea of a three year period for new clubs to get used to life in the higher division is one of the better points, since the old yo-yo phenomenon we had under P&R, where the same teams constantly changed leagues every season was quite ridiculous and did no one any favours.

The cap was similar in that it was brought in, under P&R, not originally to make for a level playing field, but to prevent clubs spending more than they could afford in ever more desperate attempts to stave off relegation. It was never enforceable though, and still isn't, and it has had a bit of 'mission creep' as well as when the proportion of income bit was dropped the emphasis moved then to supposedly creating the "level playing field". At the end of the day if, "an unconnected third party", wishes to shower riches onto a player there isn't a thing anyone can do about it.

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Quote: Bullseye "Yeah just bring back Huey and Bluey eh?

TBH I think a lot of the razamatazz isn't worth diddly unless you have a competitive team on the field. Keighley had one in Div 2 back in the mid 90s. Had they played like Runcorn Highfield they wouldn't have attracted the fans. Same goes for the Bulls in SL.

As for Fax I remember them getting 8 or 9k back in the glory years under Anderson. With a bigger ground and some marketing with a good side there's no reason why they can't again, and good luck to them. I just would rather it not be at the expense of Bradford. Given that P&R is coming back in then Fax have a good chance of getting back in sooner rather than later.'"

I think one of the problems at Fax was the fans. To be blunt, they had too many 'flatcappers', saying neigh to anything which smacked of razzamataz and the club couldn't get things done without it meeting a great swathe of protest from people who just wanted the club to be Halifax RLFC, or didn't see the point of mascots etc. I don't know why the Bradford fans weren't as vociferous, because there were plenty of folk unhappy about changing Northern to Bulls at the time, but they just didn't create in the manner of the Fax fans, so things did change at Odsal.

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Between august 95 when the bulls launched and march 06 there was plenty of unsupportive fans who even chnated "northern, Northern" at games! the bulls was seen as a cheap rip off of the Keighley style.

having won nothing bar a yorkshire cup in 15 years, We beat Leeds in the cup semi, took part in a classic (if losing) wembley final, and the rest is as they say, history. IMO, that one win at the mcalpine defined and enabled the vision of mssrs Deakin, Caisley and smith to come to fruition over the next 10 seasons.

Halifax didnt get that success, infact their biggest successes were already ten years past. they were on a decline, whereas we were on the up. It was as much about lucky timing as astute business planning! I actually miss playing halifax in our league. often this rivalry pre super league was more intense than the leeds bradford one, but many on here will simply not be old enough to remember pre SL, or early sl. One of the greatest games Ive ever witnessed was out win at Thrum Hall in 1997!

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Quote: Soupy "What good work did the Bulls do at the start of SuperLeague?'"

Frankly, if you have to ask, then you know so little about the subject that I might as well talk to my tortoises. But anyway . . .

Quote: Soupy " Bradford Northern copied marketing methods already used by Keighley. '"

Tosh. Keighley brought in what could be described as US-style razzamatazz, albeit obviously much watered down and on a comparatively tiny budget. Are you seriously suggesting Keighley invented cheerleaders, dancing girls and the rest? For a time, it worked, but just as in the Bulls' case, withered and became a pale shadow of its former glories as the fortuns of the team declined, and as they (and we) failed to freshen and re-invent it, to keep people interested.

The Bulls' version of "mania" was just that - a version of something that in principle had been done for may decades in sport, mainly in the US. But our masterstroke was certainly not "copying Keighley", but employing the marketing genius, Peter Deakin.

Quote: Soupy "Do I truly believe that kicking Bradford out of the SL is in the interest of RL.... I don't know, they certainly deserve it, though it would be a shock to the league before attendances creep up again this sport could really use the money right now, '"

"Deserve"??

What money? If Bulls leave SL this will make the other clubs rich? 4.55029296875:10
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