Hmm. Five winnables plus Hudds at home, plus two Hail Marys at Wigan and Wire. So a par performance is probably four wins, leaving us with 24 points. Nudge just north of that and we should make it, maybe at the expense of Cas rather than Hull.

Suspect we'll just miss out, as in 09. But reality is that the last three weeks' results, taking more than two points off Leeds and Saints but losing to Hull is not far off taking no points off those two but beating Hull, in terms of where it pits us in relation to Hull. We need one more win than them from one less game - doable.

I don't think we will make it. Last week's loss was massive.

Odd that we'd put in strong efforts either side of a four pointer where most agree we under-performed. Not sure what we divine from that.

But before those games, we would probably have hoped to have beaten Hull and not expected any return from Saints and Leeds. As it was we lost to Hull, making us effectively four points off. We took three unexpected points though, so we're only a point worse off, probably the same as being level as given the state of our PD level most likely won't do. And in terms of Cas who have a tough run-in and aren't out of sight if we can get a win there, we're actually one point better off.

My money would also be on us missing out, but my money would always be on us not winning the league or cup, even in the glory days. The rest of the the field put together always had a better chance than us alone. But the unlikeliness doesn't stop me taking an interest. And the fixture list shows it would take a good rather than a superhuman effort to make it, with the possibility of a return to Headingley as a reward if we did.

Not over till it's over. Roll on next week.

The problem with the Hull los is it was a genuine and fundamental 4 pojter - check thetable as it would be if we'd beaten them. So, not just we're 2 points worse off, but that loss took Hull prety much out of the equation. (And yes, yes, I know Hull could totally collapse, and in theory we could win every game etc etc).

So to me that loss was us out of the playoffs there and then. OTOH stranger things have happened. An extreme optimist would point out that if we win every remaining game we WILL be in the playoffs, and that's true If we could bottle our Jekyll attitude and make the players drink it on Hyde days, like v Hull, it would lessen the odds. I've given up trying to work out the reasons for having a split personality squad.

But whatever - I'd been going round bragging loudly that I was confident we would turn Leeds over (to much derision) so this coming week is going to be a good week with quite a bit of free beer

Had a play on this, I have us on 24 joint wth Cas and one behind Hull, which I suspect would see us miss out on PD.

Last week's loss was two points that would have made it easier; no more, no less. The win at Headingley shows that nothing is decided and we need to keep scrapping for points. There are still a few shocks, ifs, buts and maybes left in the season. I've still got my fingers crossed

I have updated the spreadsheet expecting to have my depression confirmed but with results to date there is not much difference, and we are still in the playoffs. Well, well. I can't argue with a spreadsheet, so we must be OK
or more likely I screwed something up

We're going to have to play really well on Saturday to have any chance of picking up the two points I think!

I got it at:

Bulls 24
Cas 22
Hull 27
Leeds 29
HKR 22
Salford 22.

That would see us 8th, we need 2 points from the next two games (ideally against cas), but otherwise i think thats it.

Cas will drop out of the 8, just not sure if it will be us or Salford??

We WILL make the play-offs. Quite comfortably so, I think.

We'll then get smashed in the first week.

Depends who finishes 5th. Catalans away would be tough but I'd be quite comfortable with Leeds away