I wouldn't have O'Loughlin anywhere near the Bradford team. He is slow, lacks creativity and is a penalty machine.

Good individual defender, but we have plenty of those.

I'm loving this thread. If the Wigan team think the same as the fans then it will be Bradford by 30.

Lacks creativity

The most creative loose forward in superleague in 2009 was.............Sean O'Loughlin.

The most creative loose forward in superleague so far in 2010 is.........Sean O'Loughlin.

He's our best player and the best loose forward in superleague along with Kevin Sinfield(another top player that people mock) and thats why every GB/England coach has picked one if not both of those in his side over the past 4 or 5 years.

Us fans may be a little over confidante, but there's no way the players will be. Anybody who's ever heard Shaun Wane or Michael McGuire speak will know that this Wigan side won't underestimate any opposition while their in control.

Then that surely all depends on your definition of World Class. If only 1 person played the game then he would, by definition, be World Class as he'd be the best (and worst! ) playing the sport. Fewer players shouldn't impact on your definition of World Class. However, having had this debate on the Leeds board re: Sinfield, I'm in total agreement that it's a term bandied about far too often and far too easily.

I suggested the 'Wally Lewis' test (as I called it) as a good marker of true world class. Few people, if any, would argue that Lewis wasn't world class. Maybe only the players who engender this 'universal acclaim' should be considered worthy of the term. It's as good a system as any!

IMO

World Class - A Player who makes a consistent impact at the highest level of the sport.

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Same noises if you play your best Rugby League Football in February and March you won't make the Grand Final. Leeds and Saints are only four and two points respectively behind you and are winning games without setting the world alight.

It's all about timing you can peak too soon. Or so my ex. wife tells me.

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I never had a definition of World Class, I merely stated that 10 players from each position being described as World Class is a nonsense when there are only two recognised leagues in the world.

However, for the record, Sean O Loughlin is [inot[/i my definition of World Class.

Wigan are not Melbourne Storm either. They've played in the last four NRL Grand Finals and have won two. Wigan haven't been in a Grand Final since 2003 and haven't won one since 1998.

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What an ironic statement.

You really need to rein yourselves. Your wonder coaches have presided over 4 wins and that's it. A good start to the season but that's it. I'd wait until the end of the season before I start knocking one out over them if I were you.

I've heard of Shaun Wane, he was a distinctly average front rower who Monie dumped when it was apparent he wasn't up to standard. Since packing up playing he's become a coach but has little pedigree at the top level other than four wins as an assistant to a bloke who comes from a club who are world leaders in RL.

It seems to be me that some of the Wiganers on this thread have a very blurred line over what is a fact and what is an opinion.

Wrong. You obviously havn't seen enough of how we have been playing.

As for saying Langley is better than Lockers, I seriously can't believe that. Lockers would have played in the 4 nations last year had he not got injured.

Lockers is also our longest serving player! Last season Lockers was miles better than Langley.

Currently Lockers is the better player. Whats the point in saying 'I bet he will have more this and more that' because right now he doesn't.

Quite. And just for the record I have predicted a Wigan win in my works tipping comp for this Friday, as they are the team on form and looking good. [iBut [/iit might well be closer than some of our Wigan friends on this thread and elsewhere think. And if the unthinkable happens, and the stars and planets align and we actualy sneak a clearly unwarranted win....well, this thread might be a good source of quotes for the weekend.

Looking forward to a good game and giving Deacs a great reception.