If we're going to talk about B Mc's record then we have to. And I realise each has different issues and you might typically expect higher league finishes from Bradford. But then until this year, SM has provided that and yet may this season again. I doubt you would get long odds on us overtaking Quins by the end of the year, and as WB has pointed out, the sheer volume of one-score-or-less defeats is what separates us from a handy top four spot and a place in the quarter-final draw.

I'm not slagging off BM. But if he and his results were magically transported to Odsal retrospectively, there's plenty on here that would be.

But that's the NRL not super league. A Super league which has had only four different winners in thirteen years hardly comparable to the NRL.
But it's not just this season is it. A record of eleven wins from twenty-nine games shows it's more than just this season.
But likewise we could have easily lost at Saints, Catalans and to Wakey at MM.
I think it depends on the results from the next four games.

We are heading to a more even comp though, no?
Although I accept it has probably levelled down, rather than out.
Hull KR (so far) are testiment to that. It won't be long before someone else lifts the SL crown.
I still think the point is a valid one, different comp or not.


I can't really argue with that stat.
Out of interest, how many of those loses were <12points?


And Leeds, Saints, Hull KR could have lost at x, y,z. We could go round and round with this one.
Again, I still say it's a valid argument to say those 5 wins would have put this season in a different light.



Agreed, we certainly need to start putting some form together.

But Steve McNamara hasn't had to build a club from bottom down. He tookover the Super League champions that were still in a very good position at the time he was promoted to head coach. It's only since Steve McNamara's appointment that we have diminished into the bottom of the league team that we are now.

We may have been champion in 2006, but you can hardly say he took over a champion squad.

IMO the club wasn't left (and isn't in) the greatest shape on or off the field.

No but you can say that the 2006 squad is a far better balanced squad than the current squad.

Does it matter how many we lost by it's still a loss and they are still building up far too regualry.

World Champions? Granted, it wasn't the squad that he we finished 05 in but it was still jam packed with stars and talent right across the squad.
We had strike power all across the board then and we were still as dangerous as ever leading up to Nobbies departure.

Ten years from now, Bulls bottom of Championship 1 playing in front of crowds of 63 in Wibsey Park.

Mystic Eddie et al: "McNamara out now, it has gone too far, that's just 7 wins in 267 games"

af et al: "You have to give him time, he is the man to turn it around in the long run, look at his relationship with the juniors - this was only his third crop to have come through the system and he deserves the chance to hone his techniques and prove he is the right man for the job"

Everyone else will have given it up a long, long time ago.

Tha's a point I've been making for months .Yes we may not be able to afford to sack McNamara but if the crowds continue to drop it will simply get to the stage where we can't afford not to sack him.

Well, as we will not know until if/when it happens, it is kinda hard to answer that question is it not? You know as little as I do into whether it would be a success or not. Sadly, I have no crystal ball and neither do you so I reckon this is an odd argument. Are you honestly saying that we should not sack someone because we do not know whether a new face would do the job any better? If so, then no-one would ever get sacked in your world.

Perhaps you should become our Chairman - offering a no sacking guarantee would attract all the top bosses. 3.958984375:5