Agree with most posts on here; The problem seems to lie with the lack of offensive potency in the final 30m and a slight lack of dominance in defence at times.

Points we were discussing on the walk back to the car:

1. Surely the likes of Menzies & Morrison have ideas of attacking patterns and plays to bring to the table in training?! Both have many years of top grade NRL rugby under their belts!?
2. A disruptive start - an excuse? Maybe. But preparing to play on the 8th, having it cancelled, that missing last week can't have helped.
3. Negativity. Odsal seems to resemble a morgue during the game (and before). I certainly haven't felt a real "buzz" for a long time.
4. Youth. Agree with Bullseye - this is obviously going to be key going forward with the cap etc. Burgess is the prime example of what can be done and hopefully we'll see more "stars" promoted through the junior ranks. A group of players coming through the ranks and breaking into the first team at a similar time will always have a degree of camaraderie to start with and becomes magnified on a bigger stage.
Leeds have worked this superbly and have reaped the benefits for the last 4/5 years.

It's still only 2 games in....and hopefully we'll start to see some improvement. You'd like to think that they are discussing similar things behind closed doors!

I rated Jeffries as one of the best SHs in SL, enigmatic granted. You lot have seen a lot more of him at Bradford than I have so I will go with your opinions, but I still maintain he is not a SO.
As regards the general, I thought that was what your much vaunted SH was supposed to be brilliant at. IM(well known)O Deacon has always been crap (relatively), now that is open to much argument but what cannot be denied is that since he had a class SO to make him look good he has done absolutely nothing. He has nothing to his game, never has, apart from kicking. You could pick any SH in SL & they would put together a few good performances in a season. Deacon had one decent game last year that I saw, against Hull, when they were easily the worst team in SL & with Wembley on their minds. Why he escapes criticism has always baffled me.

That is a good point, it's the same vibe at Wakey ATM. I've experienced it several times at a number of clubs. I think the difference is every time it has been a club who has been in the doldrums for a while & success is not expected or taken for granted, which is not the case at a club who have had the recent glories of Bradford.

i would also agree that Jeffries isn't a stand off, maybe that's an issue that's making him unhappy? Something doesn't seem right with him atm.

I don't think he's unhappy. I think he's suffering from the syndrome known as "taking the money".

even if he is, surely there's no job satisfaction if he's resorted to that?