The tacktick of standing still in a line worked when we had Jimmy, the awesome foursome and the rest of that great team but it doesn't work with our present team. This group need coaching how to defend. We had Harrison and he was frozen out and left. We now have Chev as assistant. Disko is there but he has his own job. We desperately need an experienced coaching team not three novices.

I don't think you can really call Lowes a novice, he's had a few years of coaching experience by now. Maybe his problem is that he's not had much experience working under a top coach? He did a bit under Harrison at Salford and then went to Wire, where he wasn't exactly very successful so they brought in [iirc] Smithy over his head, the only 'name' coach he's worked with, but he left at the end of that season.

Like a few top name players he got coaching jobs very early and maybe too easily, but many 'great' players fail to make it as a coach - different job with different skill-set requirements. The best coaches get the very best from what they have to work with, but sadly Lowesy isn't even getting adequate performances from our squad.

Lowes' first coaching job was 12 years ago.

edit: for McDermott it was 10. Anderson, 8.

Didn't he work with McDermott at Leeds before moving across to the Union side? Pretty sure they won a title while he was there - maybe the 2012 one?

Yeah, he did. Don't recall the year but he was his assistant for a while.

Actually, I think you're right, he did, I'd forgotten that, though Macca didn't have quite the rep he has [or did have] now.. Looking like there are no excuses!

Indeed, easy to remember Leeds did take a punt on him. It's another of those "What if..." moments that just before he got the Leeds job, he was turned down for the Bulls job!

(Of course, he couldn't really have done anything with us - IIRC he would have been the coach during the first administration, but still an interesting nugget)

I think that appeared far worse than was the actual case.Yes,the ball was flung quite swiftly to the floor but I think it was due to the frustration felt by Mark Mexico that it was deemed a knock-on.He himself sustained a head injury requiring a bandage,so he may not have had his bearings correct and the ball nearly struck your player,but I don't feel Mark Mexico meant it to happen like that.It would have been accidental.

Carry on...

You can tell by the reaction of the players that there was nothing in it.

A Bulls player goes across and pats Mexico on the back. Nobody else does anything.

Very dirty team Sheffield, knees elbows spears lifting and more at every opportunity and have been the same for years

Just for the record this won't become a Leigh vs Sheffield thread.

And quite right, too.

Please accept my apologies just casting for light nibble