FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > EDITED : Burgess NRL move
1068 posts in 72 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member997No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2021Aug 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



What the Club need now is some seriously positive PR Management. We need to be hearing positive stories and good news on a regular basis. The last thing we want to hear is we've signed some more Journeymen Players for next year. Positive PR will be money well spent!

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8877No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Others/combustable.gif
Red Amber and Black Fantasy Rugby League Champion 2012. By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013 Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know: Mystic Eddie has been right all along! - copyright vbfg 05.01.2017:Others/combustable.gif



Quote: Adeybull "So therefore he must be in the chair because he was seen as the best man for the job.'"


Yeah. Just like Gordon Brown.

af
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman10445No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Aug 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
731.jpg
Bradford gave us Hockney, Leeds gave us Moyles.:731.jpg



Quote: mystic eddie "Yeah. Just like Gordon Brown.'"

Slightly different as the people who call for Brown to go usually have a replacement in mind. You have nothing.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8877No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Others/combustable.gif
Red Amber and Black Fantasy Rugby League Champion 2012. By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013 Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know: Mystic Eddie has been right all along! - copyright vbfg 05.01.2017:Others/combustable.gif



Quote: af "Slightly different '"


Not at all. Brown was seen as the right man for the job at the time. He wasn't though.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2736No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2013Apr 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
39765.jpg
:39765.jpg



Quote: Ancient Provocateur "Well it is really sad that Sammy is leaving. I look forward to seeing him come back in 5 years time when Macca will be leading the products of our youth development to SL glory!'"


icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

af
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman10445No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Aug 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
731.jpg
Bradford gave us Hockney, Leeds gave us Moyles.:731.jpg



Quote: mystic eddie "Not at all. Brown was seen as the right man for the job at the time. He wasn't though.'"

You sticking by 'Hood must go' then? Is that actually what you think?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9986No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Aug 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13747_1541715311.jpg
[b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg



For all the people blaming the clube here, again I say, what do you think they should have done? Lots of complaints, no answers.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Quote: mystic eddie "Not at all. Brown was seen as the right man for the job at the time. He wasn't though.'"


1. Not by me he wasn't.

2. You have evaded the question (again). Your public eagerly awaits your wisdom and sage advice on how we set about identifying, persuading and then bringing on board the mystic messiah you so clearly believe in.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
973_1515165968.gif
Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif



Quote: mystic eddie "Another super duper day for the Bulls.

I tells ya, under the present regime we are really going places.

The sooner we get a new broom in and sweep out all the rubbish from within our club the better.

Bloody joke.'"


It is you who is the bloody joke.

You know 100% full well that there is no "new broom" (by which you mean someone, anyone, with unfeasibly large pots of money, most of which they improbably want to pour into the Bulls).

You offer no "solutions" other than sacking everyone. 100% from Hood down to the tealady. You want the entire lot sacked. the coaches are crap, the players are crap, the board is crap.

Oh, and speaking of the coaches, Mr. Burgess did"I am who I am today because of the Bradford systems that I have been in, because of the coaches and all the people at the club," he added. "(Head coach) Steve McNamara in particular, has been a massive influence on my career.
"They have all been very influential, both for myself and my career and I won't be turning my back on them because further down the line I'd like to think I may come back one day."'"

Now, usual expected platitudes aside, he had absolutely no need at all to pick out McNamara for individual especial praise. But he did. I bet you can't think of a way to put your knee-jerk negative spin on that.On second thoughts . . .

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Quote: debaser "For all the people blaming the clube here, again I say, what do you think they should have done? Lots of complaints, no answers.'"


Indeed. As I said earlier, it doesn't require a lot of brainpower to just complain. Rather more to actually fix the problem.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
973_1515165968.gif
Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif



Quote: Adeybull "Indeed. As I said earlier, it doesn't require a lot of brainpower to just complain. Rather more to actually fix the problem.'"


And nobody in any sport ever has, or ever will solve the problem of a major player who wants away. Not even the behemoth that is Man United could keep Ronaldo when he decided he wanted to go.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "And nobody in any sport ever has, or ever will solve the problem of a major player who wants away. Not even the behemoth that is Man United could keep Ronaldo when he decided he wanted to go.'"


Hey, itsa seemples! You justa playa da player in de reserves to teacha da player de lesson, dotcha know? icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1008No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2015Sep 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
20201.jpg
"I'm 49, I've had a brain haemorrhage and a triple bypass and I could still go out and play a reasonable game of rugby union. But I wouldn't last 30 seconds in rugby league." - Graham Lowe (1995):20201.jpg



Good luck to Sam and the Rabbitohs for next year. I'm sure he'll do them proud and I can see we didn't have a lot of cards to play, other than to cash in whilst there was still the opportunity to do so.

However, it's a bit rich having a go at ME for moaning about it - after all that's what he does best icon_wink.gif Particularly as it was Adey that told us only an idiot would announce losing Burgess without being able to give us some good news at the same time (let's hope that's coming today or tomorrow) and it was FA that was towing the line that the Bulls hadn't even heard from Souths up until minutes before it was announced! At the very least it's not been particularly well handled on the PR front.

I'm afraid I also fear that the squad and coach we have now is most likely to mean lower table rugby for at least next year and probably beyond that with the attendant impact upon crowds which combined with increasing overheads will further effect recruitment. I just hope that's not the downward spiral it has started to look like.

It would be hard for anyone to make good the loss of a good proportion of the playing rota and an influx of new players in the first year, so no doubt we'll hear the plausible excuse that they have to gel etc wheeled out early next year. Unfortunately we waited three years for the team that Mac built to come good, which never quite happened, and now he's dismantled that team and is starting again. I can't say that his previous record on recruitment, selection and performance would convince me he's likely to succeed.

Meanwhile whilst i accept Hood might be the best of a bad job and there's not a rush of others coming forward, at least not with the finances available to them, it does strike me that things could be better managed. I suppose it doesn't help that we have a large shareholder who seems to think there's no conflict of interests in him acting as an agent for our best player(s).

As for all the stuff about what's the alternative, well without knowing more about the relationships between directors, organisational structure, management style, finances, PR operation etc etc it would be a bit difficult. But it's a lame argument just to say you can't criticise because you don't have a fully worked out alternative.

At the moment things look shaky, we have finished outside of the playoffs for the first time in SL, we've got rid of a good proportion of the playing rota, sold arguably our best player, crowds are down and the club is either unable or reluctant to tell us the way ahead is in anything other than youth and the status quo. Given that other teams also have good youth set ups and the status quo has already driven a fair number of people away it's hardly surprising there's some criticism and anger.

My own guess is that the hostility towards ME etc is partly a way of expressing similar frustrations with the club which seems intent on defying even the learned expectations of Adey, FA, AF etc.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Quote: anarkik "Particularly as it was Adey that told us only an idiot would announce losing Burgess without being able to give us some good news at the same time '"


Indeed it was. And, if through choice they chose to do so, then I'd despair.

But I feel sure that the only reason the club made an announcement now was because the Aussies - or Caisley (wonder how much he made on the deal?) - or whoever - was making it clear that their side was intent on announcing it now anyway. Indeed, it had been so widely leaked that the club was surely forced to respond. And after all, it was people on here and elsewhere that were clamouring for an announcement from the club?

My guess is that the club is mightily pîssed off that they have been forced into announcing Sam going before they could couple it with better news. But thats my guess.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14145No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45_1302643626.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45.jpg



Quote: anarkik "My own guess is that the hostility towards ME etc is partly a way of expressing similar frustrations with the club which seems intent on defying even the learned expectations of Adey, FA, AF etc.'"


Can't speak for others, but in my own case not so. My frustration with ME is for his incessant pounding-on about what he believes is wrong (although he went much quieter on the "its all Macca's fault" monologue once we started winning again, and now "its all Hood's fault" - teadlady's turn coming up) but never making realistic suggestions about how to fix it.

Anyone can do that. And its the perogative of fans to always complain about things they are not happy with anyway.

But in my opinion, the more extensive and the more forceful the complaining, the more the responsibility to suggest some practicable answers. Otherwise, you face the increasing likelihood of been told to put up or shut up. That is where ME differs from most other complainers on here. The more he complains, the relatively less he offers by way of practicable alternatives. Compare and contrast with someone like you, who tries to offer some balance and reasoning and (like most of us) understands that you cannot look at issues like this in black and white terms - because its in many shades of grey.

And yes, I am as frustrated as the next man at the current situation, and at the lack of positive news. But I would like to think I am responsible and adult enough to recognise that it is possible the club feel exactly the same, and that maybe they are exasperated at being held hostage to events. The next few weeks will give the proof or the lie to this. I'd prefer to keep most of my powder dry until then.

But woe betide if, after a decent period, nothing remains forthcoming.

1068 posts in 72 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
1068 posts in 72 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.837890625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5378
27m
Out of contract 2025
Captain Hook
33
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
474
Recent
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
hull2524
12
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63094
Recent
Paladin Sports
orangeman
19
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
56s
2025 Season tickets
Trojan Horse
207
1m
Out of contract 2025
Captain Hook
33
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
Moe syslak
3548
1m
2025 Kit
Dutch Bull
7
1m
Paladin Sports
orangeman
19
1m
Season tickets
Rixy
4
3m
Squad 2025
MP
42
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40601
5m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63094
6m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Azul
38
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Misi Taulapapa
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Rixy
4
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
hull2524
12
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
orangeman
7
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Huddersfield
9
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
10
TODAY
Season pass roll call
UllFC
32
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
4
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Jimmythecuck
2
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Captain Hook
33
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
rubber ducki
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1021
England's Women Demolish The W..
877
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1106
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
902
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1169
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1695
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1953
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2201
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1774
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2013
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2474
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1916
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2008
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2184
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2317
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M +11,440 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5378
27m
Out of contract 2025
Captain Hook
33
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
474
Recent
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
hull2524
12
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63094
Recent
Paladin Sports
orangeman
19
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
56s
2025 Season tickets
Trojan Horse
207
1m
Out of contract 2025
Captain Hook
33
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
Moe syslak
3548
1m
2025 Kit
Dutch Bull
7
1m
Paladin Sports
orangeman
19
1m
Season tickets
Rixy
4
3m
Squad 2025
MP
42
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40601
5m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63094
6m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Azul
38
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Misi Taulapapa
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Rixy
4
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
hull2524
12
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
orangeman
7
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Huddersfield
9
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
10
TODAY
Season pass roll call
UllFC
32
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
4
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Jimmythecuck
2
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Captain Hook
33
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
rubber ducki
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1021
England's Women Demolish The W..
877
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1106
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
902
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1169
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1695
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1953
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2201
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1774
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2013
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2474
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1916
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2008
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2184
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2317


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!