From Toronto

On DR? if so I'd have a guess at Jake Butler-Fleming, not sure how much we need another with Oakes still not having played a game.

Centre always seems to be centre/second row these days, but with Oakes the same applies. Funnily enough, I'd recently been wondering just what had become of our link-up with Toronto but I hope we look to our own best interests first and to me that means giving the likes of Ross the game time he needs.

I presume it's permnanent. D/R is week to week anyway. At the moment
We don't need a centre with Gibson and Smith plus Oakes waiting in the wings. But we've been injury free so far, and all it takes is a couple of injuries and we suddenly look short, especially with Brown leaving.

Butler Fleming can play wing and centre. If he's dual reg it will be for a month and then week to week or is that a loan deal?

IMO Smith has perhaps been the least impressive of the outside backs so far this season but as skipper I'm not sure if he's dropped as easily.

I've always been impressed by Tom Armstrong, he seems to be out of favour at Toronto, unless he's injured?

Dual Reg doesn't have the same rules as loan so don't have to have the minimum one month.




I'm sure I read he was injured shortly before we played them in the friendly.

Bulls announced it. It's Butler-Fleming on a month loan, with week-to-week after that. So a loan rather than Dual Reg, from our Dual Reg partners. Makes sense.


Edit: Thinking about it, isn't their some rule about Aussies not being allowed to play on Dual Reg or something similar?

Hmm, don't really see point of a loan. We've no injuries and if we do, i'd rather see Oakes get a crack.

Is there a reason that we haven't seen young Oakes this season?

I really like him, makes a lot of space for Ethan Ryan.

Seemed to get dropped after having a defensive nightmare in the friendly at Dewsbury (and deservedly so on that display). Presumably has to do something to win his place back.

I'd agree with that, but he was awful at times in defence last year too, only he got away with the dreaded drop due to lack of options. This year he's not been so lucky.

Ross is no doubt a great prospect but so are a lot of others in the squad and I think if he gets 10-12 games this year he will have done really well (same as Kirk as well).

If he is being asked at looking at something to win back his place, he really needs to look at his overall positioning, which is awful. Way too many times he either over commits and leaves his wingman exposed, or he simply drops off the tackle too easily.

Think Butler-Fleming is an improvement on Oakes but i don't think Gibson or Smith have done anything immediately wrong to deserve being dropped for a month.

I'm guessing part of the agreement is we have to take and play TW players as and when TW require.