FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > No Reprieve
74 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain339No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 20168 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



According to todays Telegraph and Argus an informed source has told them that there will be no reprieve regarding relegation and there are definitley no plans to rejig the Championship to keep us in it.
How reliable there informed source is we can only guess at.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1444
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20168 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
74919_1469458575.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74919.png



Good.

Let's rebuild from the bottom. If we can stay full time, win the league, come back up and the go from that point.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9030No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13462.gif
:13462.gif



Who's financing this 'rebuild'?

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain40No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 20168 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2019Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Would rather we started at the bottom than stay in championship on a technicality.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator31686
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
438_1551258406.jpg
"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_438.jpg

Moderator


We just need certainty and it needs to be official not from some shadowy "informed source".

As for whether the club can survive (let alone re-build) that's another matter. C1 will definitely see lower crowds. There's no way the club can afford the Odsal rent and upkeep. Perhaps closing the terrace might save some money so perhaps we'll all be in the stand next year? I bet that fills you all with joy. I've yet to see any real evidence that the fundamental reasons for our decline (lack of money) have been addressed. If anything things are worse. The silence from the owners hardly helps. There may be rumours abounding of Koukash giving us a few quid but really?

To all intents and purposes the downward spiral continues. If it weren't for the academy gradually recovering it'd be uniformly bad news all round.

On the bright side we'll have no points deduction.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3546
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2019May 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
69500_1482141774.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_69500.jpg



Quote: Bullseye "
On the bright side we'll have no points deduction.'"


That's a bold statement to make considering we're in this situation often, only for something else to crop up afterwards and we lose another load of points!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9030No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13462.gif
:13462.gif



It seems to be a popular line 'rebuild in NL1'. I'm fairly sure we heard that when we were relegated from SL as well.

With the little info we have it seems to me that we continue to play in an oversized stadium that we couldn't afford in SL or Championship. Central funding is reducing each year as we plummet. Crowds continue to drop as we plummet. Sponsorship value will follow the trend of our profile and support base which all continue to drop.

So I ask again, who or what is funding this 'rebuild'? Or is it just a nice thought to ignore the reality of our situation? Professional RL for the Bulls looks to be coming to an end to me.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain100
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 20168 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75273_1496649510.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75273.png



Quote: HamsterChops "That's a bold statement to make considering we're in this situation often, only for something else to crop up afterwards and we lose another load of points!'"


Especially with the impending employment tribunal in January 2018, scarily close to the start of the new season... You just know the RFL, even though they are themselves implicated in it, will find a way to fudge something and "reward" us with a points deduction, or take away our central funding monies yet again, or both!

RankPostsTeam
Moderator31686
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
438_1551258406.jpg
"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_438.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Bully_Boxer "It seems to be a popular line 'rebuild in NL1'. I'm fairly sure we heard that when we were relegated from SL as well.

With the little info we have it seems to me that we continue to play in an oversized stadium that we could afford in SL or Championship. Central funding is reducing each year as we plummet. Crowds continue to drop as we plummet. Sponsorship value will follow the trend of our profile and support base which all continue to drop.

So I ask again, who or what is funding this 'rebuild'? Or is it just a nice thought to ignore the reality of our situation? Professional RL for the Bulls looks to be coming to an end to me.'"


Well it seems pretty obvious the first team will be a mix of part time and full time in 2018. I'd like to know the ratio of part time to full time.

Like you I'm dubious about the "rebuild in C1" quote. It's a throwaway line that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Unless the fundamental reason for our decline - lack of money brought about by money pit of a stadium and poor management - is sorted then Admin 4 and complete oblivion is assured.

But then again maybe it is all sorted. How else are wages and bills being paid? We must be bringing in a fraction of the money we were this time last year. Ok overheads are bound to be less but I reckon income is way less too.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain998
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Mar 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
74022_1508923680.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74022.jpg



Relegation has been nailed on for a few weeks now,
performances have deserved it so nobody can be surprised.
If a shady restructure save us it will have been agreed with CHALOW before the season started and was mentioned months ago..
It also wouldn't surprise me if relegation wasn't agreed at the outset too.
The whole post liquidation saga stinks, to me it has been masterminded by the RFL and A.N.Other (Leo group maybe?) that the bulls are kept on life support, until a pocket linning deal for all other parties, i.e fat Nige, The RFL and the Moriarty figure who will be revealed.

Someone called it with so called "inside info" last year I though it was tosh it now seems bang right.
Chalmers and Lowe are RFL patsies to throw the fans and the wider RL community off the sent.
The bringing in of Toovey an elaborate rouge (big name) to look like they had good intentions for the club.

Then new stadium / RFL head quarters on Dunnies, massive Bio plant on Odsal, Nige buys Pukka pies and is linked up to a 24hr supply line with the profits.
as far as the Bulls goes who cares?

Mr Wasps, Koukash or maybe even Lamb would have invested maybe and had the club at heart.
That's just my opinion,

RankPostsTeam
International Star7058No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
59880_1480501182.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59880.jpg



Quote: Bully_Boxer "It seems to be a popular line 'rebuild in NL1'. I'm fairly sure we heard that when we were relegated from SL as well.

.'"


Well in fairness we did have a good season in our first year in the championship. Unfortunately a ridiculous, unfair crackpot promotion system stopped us. Next season we just have to be the best in that league.

Regards to funding. I've no idea. they must be something as the academy costs £100k to run. We somehow funded a squad that will likely be more expensive (due to having to honor contracts, and considering Green and Ferres were the ones handing out those contracts. i reckon a few of the gash players could be on reasonable wages) We could have a better squad, and pay less for it. Then you've got all the sponsorship, ticket money etc.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1271.jpg
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain Build Bridges NOT Walls:1271.jpg

Moderator


I can't see how anyone will be on the contracts which Green and Ferres negotiated as they died along with the old club. I'd imagine all the staff, including players, will be on new contracts, negotiated with the current regime.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9986No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Aug 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13747_1541715311.jpg
[b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg



And quite rightly we should be relegated, as we should have been last season.

I have yet to hear one single person who says we should not be/should not have been.


Cue loads of other fans saying that we all think we are too big to go down, get special privileges, etc, etc.... It's boring now.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9030No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13462.gif
:13462.gif



I'm struggling to accept how we have been treated this year. We've been cannon fodder all season when we should have been laying down some foundations in the league below. Heck with a bit of luck we might have even been there or thereabouts for a tilt at promotion back into the Championship.

But no, we've endured a season that was actually worse than I expected and my expectations were low. We face starting where we should of been this year but with a fan base that is further peed off with everything.

I just feel as though we have punished twice over once more. I'm not sure I have the enthusiasm for much more of it to be honest.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator31686
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
438_1551258406.jpg
"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_438.jpg

Moderator


Well we are where I expected us to be if I'm honest. In my head I knew it'd be like this but in my heart I allowed myself to dream that we'd scrape avoiding relegation.

Unfortunately all my worst fears about this season have come to pass. Kids were treated like cannon fodder. Fans treated like mushrooms. Club exists only to save the RFL from re-writing the fixtures.

The saving grace has been the progress of some of our young players. Unfortunately those that have done well are most likely going to leave (Bentley, Ryan etc).

I could summon up some enthusiasm for 2018 if I could be persuaded there is a plan for the future but if it's just silence coming from the club I'll stick with the odd U19 game and find other things to do. Fans need to feel wanted or they'll give up - I'm not sure Chalmers grasps that concept.

We go again in 2018. I just hope the owners are in it for real and not just pretenders.

74 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
74 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.7470703125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
97
7m
Accountability
Murphy
2
31m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Phuzzy
2360
37m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
37917
38m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
60105
39m
Rate My Takeaway
AgbriggAmble
1
Recent
Batley Bulldogs H
wrencat1873
18
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
ComeOnYouUll
2065
Recent
Dewsbury v Dons Sunday 7/7/24 3pm
GeoffRoebuck
11
Recent
Woeful performance against London
Bobtownrhino
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
32s
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
97
36s
Leigh h
moto748
62
48s
WHO IS NEXT
gym bunny 1
153
1m
Salford - Away
Chris71
23
1m
The NRL Thread
TheBlackPear
183
1m
Planning for next season
LeythIg
13
1m
Surely its all over now for Watson
Jo Jumbuck
9
1m
Rate My Takeaway
AgbriggAmble
1
1m
Other Championship Clubs
REDWHITEANDB
234
2m
Batley next
Kettykat
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Rate My Takeaway
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
Woeful performance against London
Bobtownrhino
1
TODAY
Accountability
Murphy
2
TODAY
email
orangeman
1
TODAY
This site is crap
Philbetter
5
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
Barbed Wire
33
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Kettykat
4
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
97
TODAY
Leeds
the-bearded-
37
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
250
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
373
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1498
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1138
Big Win for England Women Over..
881
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1131
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1234
Super League form rewarded as ..
1546
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1612
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1543
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1339
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1651
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1889
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1818
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
2082
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M 3,504 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R18
 FT
Hover 
Sydney
42-12
St.George
 FT
Hover 
Canberra
12-16
Newcastle
     Womens Super League 2024-R7
12:00
Wire W
v
Hudds W
12:00
York V
v
BarrowW
       League One 2024-R14
14:00
Newcastle
v
Workington
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R16
15:00
Salford
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2024-R14
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Doncaster
15:00
Featherstone
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Swinton
v
Widnes
15:00
Wakefield
v
Batley
15:00
York
v
Barrow
       League One 2024-R14
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
 Thu 11th Jul
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
10:50
Dolphins
v
Souths
 Fri 12th Jul
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
11:00
Cronulla
v
Wests
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
17:30
WiganW
v
St.HelensW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
20:00
LondonB
v
Castleford
20:00
Warrington
v
Leeds
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
 Sat 13th Jul
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sun 7th Jul
SL
15:00
Salford-Hull FC
Fri 12th Jul
SL
20:00
LondonB-Castleford
SL
20:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
20:00
Warrington-St.Helens
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
00:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 7th Jul
NRL
LIVE
Sydney42-12St.George
NRL
LIVE
Canberra12-16Newcastle
Sat 6th Jul
NRL 18 Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
NRL 18 Wests28-40Melbourne
NRL 18 NQL Cowboys20-22Manly
SL 16 Leeds17-16LondonB
WSL2024 7 LeedsW6-16St.HelensW
WSL2024 7 FeatherstoneW0-50WiganW
Fri 5th Jul
NRL 18 Cronulla16-20Gold Coast
NRL 18 Brisbane6-14Penrith
SL 16 St.Helens6-8Castleford
SL 16 Warrington48-0Huddersfield
SL 16 Wigan24-6Leigh
CH 14 Sheffield28-0Halifax
Thu 4th Jul
NRL 18 Parramatta16-32Souths
Sun 30th Jun
CH 13 Barrow0-36Wakefield
CH 13 Dewsbury12-38Bradford
CH 13 Halifax38-18Whitehaven
CH 13 Widnes16-24Batley
CH 13 York10-18Sheffield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 15 427 170 257 26
St.Helens 16 429 170 259 22
Warrington 16 406 213 193 22
Hull KR 15 383 201 182 22
Salford 15 295 288 7 20
Catalans 15 288 220 68 18
 
Leeds 16 291 286 5 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 16 246 435 -189 9
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
LondonB 16 156 615 -459 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 13 486 142 344 26
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 13 341 218 123 18
Toulouse 12 332 174 158 16
Widnes 13 315 245 70 15
Featherstone 13 330 283 47 12
 
Batley 13 205 286 -81 12
Doncaster 13 237 325 -88 11
York 14 285 293 -8 10
Whitehaven 13 266 358 -92 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Barrow 12 203 339 -136 10
Swinton 13 260 332 -72 8
Dewsbury 14 168 419 -251 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
97
7m
Accountability
Murphy
2
31m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Phuzzy
2360
37m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
37917
38m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
60105
39m
Rate My Takeaway
AgbriggAmble
1
Recent
Batley Bulldogs H
wrencat1873
18
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
ComeOnYouUll
2065
Recent
Dewsbury v Dons Sunday 7/7/24 3pm
GeoffRoebuck
11
Recent
Woeful performance against London
Bobtownrhino
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
32s
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
97
36s
Leigh h
moto748
62
48s
WHO IS NEXT
gym bunny 1
153
1m
Salford - Away
Chris71
23
1m
The NRL Thread
TheBlackPear
183
1m
Planning for next season
LeythIg
13
1m
Surely its all over now for Watson
Jo Jumbuck
9
1m
Rate My Takeaway
AgbriggAmble
1
1m
Other Championship Clubs
REDWHITEANDB
234
2m
Batley next
Kettykat
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Rate My Takeaway
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
Woeful performance against London
Bobtownrhino
1
TODAY
Accountability
Murphy
2
TODAY
email
orangeman
1
TODAY
This site is crap
Philbetter
5
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
Barbed Wire
33
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Kettykat
4
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
97
TODAY
Leeds
the-bearded-
37
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
250
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
373
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1498
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1138
Big Win for England Women Over..
881
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1131
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1234
Super League form rewarded as ..
1546
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1612
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1543
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1339
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1651
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1889
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1818
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
2082


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!