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Feel sorry for the genuine wakey fans as it will feel like they're being punished for something a handful of idiots did.

But RFL had no choice. They're the governing body and can't be seen to sweep it under the carpet when they work with anti-social/homolhobia/disability groups.

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After the million pound game I received a barely literate rant from a Wakefield fan on Facebook. It was a tirade containing extremely racist language. What made it all the more odd was the fact that he’s my cousin. In fact it isn’t uncommon for him to randomly message me about his sincere disapproval regarding the perceived ethnic demography of Bradford. He’s a strange man.

I’m sure I was making a point here but I’ve forgotten what it was. I’m not going to slate Wakey fans because it’s a lazy response to the fact that they, like many of us, have a minority of utter, utter gimps. The enforcement of the previous smoke-bomb fine is a shame for the club because it suggests they haven’t yet got a solution for handling these muppets.

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Quote: Pumpetypump " The enforcement of the previous smoke-bomb fine is a shame for the club because it suggests they haven’t yet got a solution for handling these muppets.'"


I suppose it is pretty difficult to manage and stop these idiots getting in. Unless the are daft enough to wear their "I'm a racist chanter" baseball caps they had made.

Surely it's about how quickly and effectively it is dealt with at the time and that should mitigate the fine (or some of it) if they can demonstrate it was jumped on quickly

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Quote: Pumpetypump "... The enforcement of the previous smoke-bomb fine is a shame for the club because it suggests they haven’t yet got a solution for handling these muppets.'"


I don't know if there is one, though.

The only sensible response is to identify the perpetrators, and ban them from the ground.

However it is, in practical terms, impossible to do that. I mean, they might ID one or two and make an example of them but I don't recall any report of even that happening.

The reasons are many - the stewards have neither instruction, inclination, ability, sufficient salary or (crucially) legal power to wade in and arrest people, so for anything other than very small scale issues, they are largely a waste of space. So if 50 or so start a chant, they won't be stopped, and unless Wakey have invested heavily in AV technology then they can't for the most part be identified much less anything specific proved against a specific person. Even if a few were identified you can't tell me that there is any reasonable chance of turnstile operators in future games turning them away, that is clearly pie in the sky.

The answer's easy - ID the culprits and act against them. The hard part is finding a way to do that.

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Got off lightly. How can you suspend half of this when making them pay half of a suspended fine from earlier in the season?

It's repeated bad behaviour from the Wakefield support so if they can't control themselves they should pay the full wack.

Also notice the fine is for racist chanting. So the offensive chanting about the valley parade fire has been deemed acceptable then?

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Got off lightly. How can you suspend half of this when making them pay half of a suspended fine from earlier in the season?

It's repeated bad behaviour from the Wakefield support so if they can't control themselves they should pay the full wack.

Also notice the fine is for racist chanting. So the offensive chanting about the valley parade fire has been deemed acceptable then?'"


It's a fine for chanting of a racists and offensive nature. I would imagine the VP stuff comes under offensive

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Nah. You can chant the Valley Parade thing as much as you like. It could be behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace, but there's no police in the ground. It should get you thrown out and banned - but we all know the chances of that.

Sadly, in 2016, you can be almost as offensive and objectionable as you like (and every second, thousands of Twitter and FB trolls revel in exactly that behaviour) and one or two sacred cows apart, nothing will nor can be done. People have been given almost carte blanche to be heartless, offensive, ignorant bas-tarrds and seem to be seizing it with relish in droves.

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What a copout by the RFL. They should obviously have punished them by reversing the decision of the MPG.

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We should play it again, it must have put addy off with that late penalty!!

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Nah. You can chant the Valley Parade thing as much as you like. '"


What chant would that be Ferocious?

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Quote: Terrace singer "What chant would that be Ferocious?'"


11 May 1985.....I was in the middle of it and wont forget it in a hurry.

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Glad most recognise it's a minority that Wakefield are trying to deal with.
Different security team this year and tighter controls on tickets etc.

It's difficult to identify before it happens but we should be dealing with them after the fact, and as I understand it, the club have tried hard to do that.

I don't like getting a fine but it will make the rest of the supporters more likely to point out the issues

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The sad part is we probably can't afford Gaskell now icon_sad.gif

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