What do we make of that 2002 grand final then.

19-18 up and Saints have only to run down the clock. Chris Joynt picked up the ball from dummy half and suddenly fell to the feet of Deacon and Lee Gilmour within kicking distance of the Saints’ goal post.

The RFL clearly state:

"A player in possession shall not deliberately and unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he has time to regain his feet and continue play."

A joke AND a disgrace?

If I had a time machine I would deffo go back in time to this precise moment, watch it and probably tut loudly while shaking my head. I may even motion towards someone stood near me to watch in the hopes that they agree with me and tut and shake their heads too.

Then I would go and look at some dinosaurs.

I wasn't even born in 2002 but I know for a fact that it was one of the last 100 or so games Russell Smith ever reffed. Proof positive the RFL knew he'd robbed us.

Even Ian Millward was staggered at the lack of penalty as this still from Sky sports shows.

I have passed details on to my solicitor, who will be closely monitoring for baseless slanders

Yay! A revival of the longest thread ever!

Has this been discussed already? Apologies if that's the case.

Just for the benefit of those who may not know, JVT was the finest thread ever on any forum. It was mercilessly and shamefully culled, when it should have been kept for posterity. Cultural vandalism. Murderers.

But that incident was one topic that was not discussed. So, no, it hasn't been discussed already.

VBFG claims I deleted it. I am a curmudgeon at times but I agree that would have been tantamount to murder and I refute those allegations. Whoever did it, I believe that ultimately it was switched off because it had become self-aware.



I'm sure the actual topic was discussed for a fair few pages at the beginning surely. But little by little morphed into something much more wonderful.

Can't we please try to do it again?

I don't know. Your post has stirred up some terrible memories of loss and pain. I'm not sure I could go through something like that once more. the wounds ran deep. Take a good look at my face. You'll see my smile looks out of place.

You're not the life & soul of the party because you tell a joke or two.

Who's trying to fool the public

They certainly are. Listening to how dire they sounded at Glastonbury, I'd say they are fooling themselves as well.

You can't say that! Glasto, and all things connected to it is a national institution and as such is beyond reproach.

It's a bit like saying Andy Murray isn't very good at tennis or the Queen is looking her age or even that one of those championship sides is ever going to lower the colours of the mighty Bulls..

The Ooo were good I thought. Better than Kanye though that wouldn't take much.

Thy might have fooled themselves but they won't get fooled again.