So if, as many from other boards hope, we get a points deduction does that include our points difference or just a reduction in our league points? If the latter then we really need to thump the broncos on Sunday so as to provide us enough of a cushion going into the rest of the season

points deductions dont affect the points difference, just total league points.

Indeed.

Same way an insolvency event just leads to potential points deduction, not any financial penalty, same for all clubs.

Hang on a minute though...

From the heady heights of the top of Super League we wish you well...

Ilkley is top of SL?

How deaf hook did that happen?

If people think we should be deducted points what is the point of paying back creditors?

To minimise the size of the points deduction. Financial impact of relegation would be greater than costs of paying creditors and staying up. A smaller points deduction increases our chances of avoiding relegation.

Interesting theory???

at least look at it this way, if we are deducted 4 pts and beat london, we will be equal to london, wakey (unless they can somehow beat wigan) and possibly wire and catalan but we should have a better pts difference than them all and we are in a straight up dogfight with them.

....set to be announced?...possibly today.

rla four-point penalty seems the most likely outcomerl


Would this draw a line under it? (Im guessing not)
Is this enough punishment for all the people who wish it? (I'd guess not)
Can we still survive? (Yes, a win on Sun, a loss for Wakey and we'd still be level with London and Wakey.)

...Would this mean we could get back to concentrating on Rugby???

4 point is probably manageable. If it had been 6 it could be a different ball-game :/

Would be sh11te if true.
They said they willing to work with creditors, yet still get the deduction? Why bother working with them then?

No mention of the stolen Sky money being returned?

Problem is I guess, working with creditors is not, paying back creditors fully, or we'd have said that, so I guess we are paying back, but maybe not fully, hence a mitigated penalty rather than 6 points, or worse.

FWIW I have always thought we should have incurred a deduction, whatever the technicalities of the rules (or lack of them). Whatever the precedence and level of working with creditors. To have been the only club to avoid a points deduction upon entering admin, in a relegation season, would not have seemed right to me.

Admittedly I don't know the full details, this is just a gut feeling working on whats been put in the public domain by the various parties. I don't think our reputation (battered as it already is) would have ever recovered if we survived this season by 2 points say after not getting any deduction. Just IMHO as a not in the know rugby fan of course.

And for all the apparent unfairness, ultimately, as a club (read succession of owners, not fans) we only have ourselves to blame for our current predicament, to go from World Champions in 2006, to where we are now in 2014 is an impressive self inflicted death spiral. Hopefully this is the bottom and we can get through this season on move onwards and upwards.

We will not be relegated this season.....you heard it here first We will win just enough games

Relegation isn't really relegation this year anyway. The size of the parachute payments mean you can stay full time so when the league splits you'll be competing with the superleague clubs. Forget about the championship clubs they'll not be able to compete consistently on part time funding so they're out of the picture.

But it won't affect us well stay up. If it's less than an unlikely 50 points deduction they're still be some angry people in small towns like Halifax and Wakefield.