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| Obviously the most talked about is Bateman. And I am lead to believe (from a very reliable source) that Bateman is off to Warrington for £300,000.
However I am also lead to believe that Elliott Whitehead is signing for Leeds on a £250,000 fee.
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Obviously the most talked about is Bateman. And I am lead to believe (from a very reliable source) that Bateman is off to Warrington for £300,000.
However I am also lead to believe that Elliott Whitehead is signing for Leeds on a £250,000 fee.'"
Why would anyone pay a fee when you have got 10 days to stave off admin. IMHO and I maybe wrong they will wait for admin and take a chance, if you enter admin depending what happens your staff will be free to leave or sign elsewhere.
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| I would not be shocked to find these deals going through except at the prices stated. like redwhite and blue says - why would warrington and leeds pay when they know if they wait they may be able to get these players cheaper in a few weeks? also why would players sign now? obviously on the open market their value would soar - bateman could potentially open up to the highest bidder.
I would be tempted to state we would accept those sort of fees with promising youngsters in return for at least a season long loan but we are not in a position of power and the two clubs mentioned are hardly likely to go for that option.
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| Ward and 200k for whitehead i would bite their hands off.
riley and 300k for bateman and again yes.
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| i dont think anything will be happening just yet
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| I could very reluctantly accept one of the above leaving if it helped secure our future. Replacing both would be very difficult indeed and a bitter pill to swallow. Fingers crossed there is another way..
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| To be honest as much as I would love for them to stay or maybe just Whitehead go, if it means we still have a club to follow in 2013 I can handle them leaving...... :'( ............nope.. I can't ![Sad icon_sad.gif](images/smilies//icon_sad.gif)
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "I could very reluctantly accept one of the above leaving if it helped secure our future. Replacing both would be very difficult indeed and a bitter pill to swallow. Fingers crossed there is another way..'"
I don't see how selling the clubs best young players secures the future of a club losing 100k a month. All it means is we enter administration later with fewer assets, less supporters, a lower league position and less sponsor good will. You can't sell season tickets on the back of player sales. What is being suggested is simply more of what's caused the problem.
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| Quote: M@islebugs "I don't see how selling the clubs best young players secures the future of a club losing 100k a month. All it means is we enter administration later with fewer assets, less supporters, a lower league position and less sponsor good will. You can't sell season tickets on the back of player sales. What is being suggested is simply more of what's caused the problem.'"
Very well said. Selling players will not solve anything other than a quick fix of cash and we'll find ourselves at the same point further down the line, with less of a squad and less support.
How much of this "very good source and I'm led to believe" stuff actually comes true anyway?
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| Assuming my season ticket rises from £125 to about £250 next season (main stand) then they've either got to
1. Sell it to me on the promise that the second row partnership will be Bateman and Whitehead
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2. Sell it to me on the promise that the second row partnership will be Sibbit and Walker
I think I'll be passing if its option 2 ![Sad icon_sad.gif](images/smilies//icon_sad.gif)
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "Assuming my season ticket rises from £125 to about £250 next season (main stand) then they've either got to
1. Sell it to me on the promise that the second row partnership will be Bateman and Whitehead
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2. Sell it to me on the promise that the second row partnership will be Sibbit and Walker
I think I'll be passing if its option 2
That's where I'm coming from. 20 + years season ticket holder, coughed up £200 when the begging bowl came out. They need to sort things out and tell us what's happening! I'll make my judgement then! If the outcome is sell off our assets then I'm gonna struggle to justify parting with my hard earned for another year of mediocrity. Add to the above that there is a strong possibility that Burgess will head down under and it doesn't make good reading.
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| Quote: Spannerz "That's where I'm coming from. 20 + years season ticket holder, coughed up £200 when the begging bowl came out. They need to sort things out and tell us what's happening! I'll make my judgement then! If the outcome is sell off our assets then I'm gonna struggle to justify parting with my hard earned for another year of mediocrity. Add to the above that there is a strong possibility that Burgess will head down under and it doesn't make good reading.'"
We are where we are and its unproductive to point fingers anymore at past an present BoDs. If we are to survive then we need a cash inflow of at least £1/2M to get us HMRC debt free. The idea that we have arranged repayment schedules with HMRC for £250.000 of Vat and (at least) £250,000 of tax on players rights is a future revenue burden we can not comply with in respect of future cash flows.
We are very fortunate that we do have assets to sell that might secure our future. Sadly the only assets of value are certain players, who might have a sum value towards paying off the HMRC debts entirely.
When facing extinction some previously unpalatable actions become possible, then probable, then certain.
Bateman and Whitehead's sales might be enough to keep the Bulls alive in their existing format.
I'd rather support the Bulls with the loss of 2 of their star players than have no Bulls to watch at all.
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| Quote: bobsmyuncle "We are where we are and its unproductive to point fingers anymore at past an present BoDs. If we are to survive then we need a cash inflow of at least £1/2M to get us HMRC debt free. The idea that we have arranged repayment schedules with HMRC for £250.000 of Vat and (at least) £250,000 of tax on players rights is a future revenue burden we can not comply with in respect of future cash flows.
We are very fortunate that we do have assets to sell that might secure our future. Sadly the only assets of value are certain players, who might have a sum value towards paying off the HMRC debts entirely.
When facing extinction some previously unpalatable actions become possible, then probable, then certain.
Bateman and Whitehead's sales might be enough to keep the Bulls alive in their existing format.
I'd rather support the Bulls with the loss of 2 of their star players than have no Bulls to watch at all.'"
If any of this turns out to be true do you think it will only be 2? How many of our OOC players we we retain?
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| Quote: ritz "Ward and 200k for whitehead i would bite their hands off.
riley and 300k for bateman and again yes.'"
What rubbish, Ward & £300k & Riley & £400k I heard.
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